zurmmy Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 Does any one (KNOW OR CARE) WHERE YOU CAN GET REPLACEMENT J-PLUG HOOKS. AT A GOOD PRICE, OR HOW TO MAKE TOUR OWN.
HitMan Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 Are you referring to the entire J-Plug Harnesses or just the hooks on the harnesses? I will have 100s of harnesses for sale this weekend at the Grand Rapids Swap Meet. I can also guide you on what brand of dacron to purchase and how to retie your current harnesses you may have. Otherwise, I can get you however many you want already pretied. Let me know your thoughts.
GUN Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 USE DACRON LINE AND TIE A DOUBLE RIGGED TREBLE HOOK RIG.ON THE FRONT USE A SPIT RING AND BEAD CHAIN AND TO THE SPIT RING DIE DOUBLE HOOK RIG AND YOUR BACK IN BUSINESS. HOW MANY ARE YOU LOOING FOR ? I MAY HAV EA BUNCH FOR SALE.GUNRUN-N-GUN CHARTERSwww.rngcharters.com
ironman Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 zurmmy,We will be carrying bead chain harnesses with VMC Vanadium hooks in Blood red. I am just waiting for my bead chains to show up. Since I have gone to these rigs I have not lost a fish due to the hook or dacron failing. They are a huge upgrade. I will try to post a pic later.Matt
Paulywood Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 I was going to suggest going to either braid or bead chains, I'm not a big fan of the dacron. Let me know when you get the bead chain setups Matt, I'm interested.
ironman Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 Here are the harnesses I will have on the site soon. The first set is a #3 J-Plug with the correct harness. The next plug is a #4 J-plug Then a #5 Silver Horde Plug with the proper harness for each. Matt
slipknot Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 Couple of questions from a rookie...How many pounds are those bead chains rated for? I have found 4 bead chains but they don't give a weight rating.What size hooks would you use for each size of j-plug going with the bead chains instead of dacron or braid?Thanks for any help.
ironman Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 The bead chains I use are rated for 80#. For the #3 J-plug I use a #1 hook and for the #4 J-Plug or #5 Silverhorde I use 1/0 hooks.Matt
HitMan Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 We use Size 2 Round Bend hooks for Size 3 J-Plugs and Size 1 Round Bend hooks for Size 4 and 5 J-Plugs. The smaller hooks allow for a better hook-up ratio, especially with the double hook setup. Plus, heavier and larger hooks and bead chains drag the hooks down below the body of the plug more than dacron and smaller hooks do, especially at slower trolling speeds. This is the most important thing when fishing with J-Plugs to get the most bites and successful hook-ups! The more your J-Plug harness drags, the less bites and hook-ups you will receive. Hope this helps!
ironman Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 I have not noticed any decrease in hookup ratios, in fact the ratio has gone way up. With this setup we simply do not lose fish!! On the contrary with the dacron setups I have several times been fighting a fish and had the dacron fail for whatever reason. I can only guess as to why. That is what caused me to look at diffrent methods of running plugs. The bead chain harnesses have been nothing less than phenominal. If you actually ran these you would see that they do not hang down and hinder hookups in any way. I could care less if I sell a single harness, that has been my experience running both setups. Matt
Priority1 Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Has Anyone tried using 2 single hooks with the bead chains? I have heard of people doing this. I had fantastic results with Glow Js on the riggers this past year. The only thing I don't like about the double treble hooks on the Js is the net tangles.
slipknot Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Lots of good info. Never gave it a thought of bigger trebles dropping down away from the body of the plug. Definitely worth a "sea-trial" when I get on the water again. You know, actually try a couple sizes of hook, with and without bead chains, at various speeds to see what happens to the action of the plug and placement of the hooks (with the lure running right beside the boat).
HitMan Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Matt,I was not trying to discourage sales of your product. I have been using the bead chain harness vs. the normal dacron harness for the last 4 years. My statements and comments were based on my observations and data over the course of the last four years. Therefore, I have used both setups and I never state anything on this website that isn't true or I have not looked in depth at. All my comments about the hooks hanging down, less hook-ups, etc. was backed with on the water experiences. This is just what has worked for me and what I believe in. Everyone is different. Sorry for the confusion.
ironman Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 We came up with some really different results. I was extremely suprised to hear your results with the bead chains, so much so that I thought that there was no way you could have possibly ran them. Obviously I was wrong about that. What works for some may not work for others. Sorry I took your post the wrong way.Matt
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