slickwater Posted February 27, 2019 Posted February 27, 2019 I put powerpro on a couple of my rigger rods and I'm going to put a fluorocarbon leader on. I was told to put a 3ft piece of leadcore in between the two. Would you recommend a better way? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Great Lakes Fisherman Mobile App
KJ pluggin Posted February 27, 2019 Posted February 27, 2019 I would probably make the connection with a barrel swivel or an improved Albright knot. The FG knot is also a good option, but it’s a bit more cumbersome to tie. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1
slickwater Posted February 27, 2019 Author Posted February 27, 2019 What about a blood knot?Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Great Lakes Fisherman Mobile App
slickwater Posted February 27, 2019 Author Posted February 27, 2019 Well I tried the FG knot. But as you can see it's not nice and straight. Do you know what i could have done wrong?Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Great Lakes Fisherman Mobile App
jdh Posted February 27, 2019 Posted February 27, 2019 Double uni-knot for sure! I use that one all the time.
slickwater Posted February 27, 2019 Author Posted February 27, 2019 I don't trust the double uni. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Great Lakes Fisherman Mobile App
TyeeII Posted February 27, 2019 Posted February 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, slickwater said: I don't trust the double uni. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Great Lakes Fisherman Mobile App WHY KNOT?
KJ pluggin Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Well I tried the FG knot. But as you can see it's not nice and straight. Do you know what i could have done wrong?Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Great Lakes Fisherman Mobile App It looks like you may not have had enough tension on the line to keep all the wraps tight. Watch this video if you haven’t seen it already. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
jdh Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, slickwater said: I don't trust the double uni. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Great Lakes Fisherman Mobile App Ok then.
slickwater Posted February 28, 2019 Author Posted February 28, 2019 WHY KNOT?It's a big not to go through the guides. And I'm afraid the braid will slip.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Great Lakes Fisherman Mobile App
slickwater Posted February 28, 2019 Author Posted February 28, 2019 It looks like you may not have had enough tension on the line to keep all the wraps tight. Watch this video if you haven’t seen it already. [/url]Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThis is the video I watched. Maybe I just don't have good dexterity. I think the bump in the knot happened when I did a wrap and the fluorocarbon didn't pull straight right away and might have caused a kink or bend. Maybe I need to keep the fluorocarbon tight also.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Great Lakes Fisherman Mobile App
TyeeII Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 I use the double uni all the time without either of the issues you are worried about and it's an easy knot to tie on the water. Works great for leadcore to braid as well. 1
CapMike Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 I sometimes use the double uni and have had no unexplained failures. I also use a swivel sometimes. No unexplained failures with it, either. I tie a fluorocarbon knot on the F-carbon side and a double palomar on the other. I love knot and want to learn the FG knot. Interesting, I was in Florida and our guide said he always used the FG to attach his f-carbon leader. "Never fails," he said. The next jack cravalle I hooked broke off at the braid to leader knot. Hmmmm
slickwater Posted March 4, 2019 Author Posted March 4, 2019 Well I think I got pretty good at tying the modifide FG-knot. I pulled just about as hard as I could on the lines with no slippage. But it sure does take a long tim to tie. Plus I'm still not sure if I am finishing the knot right. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Great Lakes Fisherman Mobile App
CapMike Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Probably one of those "don't fix what isn't broke" scenarios. Since I've not had problems with the uni/uni connection, I should probably just stick with it. I think the FG is mostly for casting situations where the "bump" the knot makes in the line is the issue more than the strength of the knot being inferior. 1
CapMike Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 When I'm doing the double uni, I do 7 or 8 wraps through the loop with the braided line. Five wraps for the mono or fluoro. I don't think additional wraps hurts or weakens the line. On the mono, additional wraps don't strengthen it, either. 7 or 8 wraps might insure the knot not slipping.
FBD Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Back to back uni knots on all my cores. Some have several as I step the leaders down from 20# mono to 10# FC. Never had one fail. I have (4) one colors, (2) two colors, a 4 color, 6 color, 8 color, and two full cores. Good advice on the extra loops for the braid. Make sure to keep the FC moist as you snug it up. Snagged one on the bottom last year and had the gears in the reel strip out, but the knots held. Not sure if I won that one...
slickwater Posted March 8, 2019 Author Posted March 8, 2019 Back to back uni knots on all my cores. Some have several as I step the leaders down from 20# mono to 10# FC. Never had one fail. I have (4) one colors, (2) two colors, a 4 color, 6 color, 8 color, and two full cores. Good advice on the extra loops for the braid. Make sure to keep the FC moist as you snug it up. Snagged one on the bottom last year and had the gears in the reel strip out, but the knots held. Not sure if I won that one...Why are you not using the Willis knot for leadcore to fluorocarbon? I ended up using the fg knot for braid to fluorocarbon. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Great Lakes Fisherman Mobile App
Norton864 Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 I've had good success with the Albright knot.Sent from my SM-G930V using Great Lakes Fisherman Mobile App
CapMike Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 Albright knot? What, doubling back the mono or fluorocarbon and then doing the wraps around the doubled line with the braid? I use the albright to connect a leader to copper line and in a couple of saltwater applications. I certainly believe it's imprudent to change what's working (don't fix what isn't broke.) Still, the FG knot is similar in function to the albright knot, but would absolutely be thinner and assertedly as strong or stronger.
CJ428 Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) The FG knot is hard to make for me. The double uni raises a question- how many wraps- some videos say 7 - some 8 - and then I read - Double Uni Knot Tying Instructions. Repeat with the end of the line on the left making the same number of wraps unless tying with braided line in which you should double the number of wraps. What number works best? Edited July 7, 2019 by CJ428 Improve
jdh Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 I go with 6-8 wraps with the mono and 10-12 with the braid.
CJ428 Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 On the double uni knot - I tried 7 wraps on the mono and 11 wraps on the braid - tested with a pull scale and found it perfect (no knot slip at full line load). Thanks jdh
BassBuster Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 A couple summers ago when I first started using braid I got some 15lb power pro and tied on a 15lb fluoro leader with a double uni knot. I was fishing a Senko and a 26lb flathead grabbed hold of it. That fish fought like it was a whale, but the knot held up without any issues. I was pretty impressed.
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