muskybob Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 I was wondering how far above the weight you guys are attaching the release. I run 8lb balls and use DuBro releases attached right on top of the ball. Anyone attach them higher with a lead?
caznik Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 I run walker releases and have mine just about 7" above the cannon ball and allways works well for me. What are you fishing for with those 8lb balls. I gave up 8lb balls long time ago because of to much of the cable dragging behind the boat. If your fishing with good riggers go with 12lb. balls. You will like them much better. They keep your cable from dragging so much.Cazz
Priority1 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 I use the Walkers also and they are just above the ball whatever distance the snaps are. I know some balls have a place to hook the release, but I think it's a little safer a touch above the ball. If you ball starts ticking the bottom at least your lure will have a few inches of insurance and hopefully not foul up.
muskybob Posted March 23, 2007 Author Posted March 23, 2007 I screwed up, they're 10 pounders not 8's. No problem, been running them for years. I just got used to them. What do you run from the snap to the ball, a short piece of power pro or similar?
CaptLevi Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Make a 8"-12" cable with downrigger cable and a snap at each end. Snap one end to the rear eyelet of the cannonball. Leave the other open and attach your line to it with a rubber band. You should notice a real obvious increase in hooking percentages.
caznik Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 I was wondering how far above the weight you guys are attaching the release. I run 8lb balls and use DuBro releases attached right on top of the ball. Anyone attach them higher with a lead? Ok Muskybob you made me get off my butt and work on this for you. Here are some pictures that I have taken so you can see what I am talking about. Picture #1 This is called a true track that you have to connect on to your downrigger cable. Picture #2 I hope you dont mind the turkeys butt in the back ground. But anyways this is how my rig is set up on my rigger. The true track is connected to the rigger cable. Then I hook up a walker release on the true track. Then your cannon ball will hook up to your walker release. I hope this will help you out some. Those walker releses I allways used and they have been very good for me. Good luck, Caznik
CaptLevi Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 I've used the Walkers for years on my personal boat and on my charter. they work well. I think I increased hook ups with the rubber band set-up since changing over on Sportboat.
Priority1 Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 Thanks for the tip Capt. Levi. I mostly run two riggers, so I'll switch one to the Rubber band set up. I Used rubber bands for yrs off my big boards. I have one Downrigger cable that needs a couple of feet chopped of because it's frayed. I'll just chop an extra foot off and make one these LEVI SPECIALS. I can't say that I had that many releases with no one home with the Walkers. One thing for sure this is as inexpensive as you can get, and if it works even just as well I'll be sold.
CaptLevi Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Well now ya made me blush. But I didn't invent the idea for sure. Got it partly from Shades and then saw another setup online at another forum. Just seems to work for me so I thought I would share it. BTW I still have the walkers attached to my cable line in case I run low on rubber bands!
Nailer Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Hi all, When I was down at the Sport Fishing show in Grand Rapids I talked to the guys from Best Chance about my troubles with not getting good hook sets. The trouble we had last year was when the fish got half way to the boat they got off. He thought most likely our trouble was our releases and, said we should go with the Blacks Release. Do any of you have an opinion on the Blacks release?Thanks, Ken.
LongLine Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Ken -I only run Black’s releases. Never had a problem with them. I run the cable through them with an oversized crimp between the legs to hold them in place. Roughly an inch above the cannonball hardware. I don’t like extra or multiple snaps/swivels/hardware that can fail, come unclipped or get fouled with weeds/fleas. Don’t use them on a coated cable unless you check out thread “Black’s on a Sub-Tâ€, because they’ll wear through the coating pretty fast. (Thread's back there someplace)I also use them as a stacker on uncoated cable.Just remember with all plastic releases, don’t store them in direct sunlight or in high temperature areas for extended periods of time as all plastics will deteriorate.
HitMan Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 We have used the Black's releases for the last 5 years after years of using Rubber Bands and the Proos Wally Release. The Black's, or the DuBros release, do an excellent job. You can tighten the releases to whatever you want and it never has failed on us. We are now convinced on the Black's release and it is so easy to set the release quickly or in rough conditions. I believe our percentages have gone up since switching over from the Proos Wally Release. Personally, I would recommend Black's for better initial hook-up ratios!
caznik Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Can someone please show me a picture of a black release. I have never herd of one or seen one.Thanks,Rich
HitMan Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Here is a link to Cabela's:http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0031606017675a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=black%27s+release&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=black%27s+release&noImage=0We use the "Release Clip with Snap" one.
Midway97 Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Here is a link to Cabela's:http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0031606017675a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=black%27s+release&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=black%27s+release&noImage=0We use the "Release Clip with Snap" one.I ran these for while also, good release overall, only thing I recommend is to check the bend in the release clip fairly often, Mine ended up wearing a groove in it and started chaffing the line. Since then I use either the walker or a rubber band.p.s. you can also us a rubber band in he blacks release if you wear a groove.
Reel_Screamer Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 I was wondering how far above the weight you guys are attaching the release. I run 8lb balls and use DuBro releases attached right on top of the ball. Anyone attach them higher with a lead?Muskybob i use the Big Jon band buster's so mine are just above the ball, i use 12# pancake on all 4 of my riggers, and i really can load the rod depending on what size rubber band i'm using... That's just my $.02
caznik Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Here is a link to Cabela's:http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0031606017675a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=black%27s+release&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=black%27s+release&noImage=0We use the "Release Clip with Snap" one.Thank you Hitman for the info. First time ever seeing that kind of release.Cazz
Nailer Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Thanks to all that replied. I think these will be a big improvement over our pincher style that we're using now.
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