Boomer Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 I have a question regarding a 12" paddle is it supposed to sway back and forth in the water or spin? I can't deteremine a front or back either I believe it is a dream weaver branded paddle. I was trying to run a meat rig behind it if that makes any difference.
mrhookup Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 the smaller end is the front and where you should clip the line from your rod to. Run the meat rig off the "fatter" end.
Gnarf Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 Forget the meat put a poofster or oceana fly behind it and keep it 10 off the bottom right now for big fish
hear fishy fishy Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 Run it 65 feet and below to bottom like Joe said.
mrhookup Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Frosted fern UV fly with green or green and yellow beads has been good too. And they rotate, the old school metal dodgers are the ones that sway back and forth
EdB Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Run a much longer lead to the fly than you would on a smaller flasher.
Great Gazoo Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Guys, why am I breaking paddles off this year at my release on a rigger? It has happened 2-3 times. I don't think I'm doing anything different than I usually do. I don't understand. The rod releases and the paddles gone. I've also popped the release intentionally, only to have the paddle break off.Using Blacks release.
Bad Dog Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Guys, why am I breaking paddles off this year at my release on a rigger? It has happened 2-3 times. I don't think I'm doing anything different than I usually do. I don't understand. The rod releases and the paddles gone. I've also popped the release intentionally, only to have the paddle break off.Using Blacks release.Is your main line breaking? If so, what pound test are you running?
Great Gazoo Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Yes. Main line. 20#.. Should I be running 30# for paddle / fly? I figure it has to be getting twisted in the release, somehow.
BIGTREBLE Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Guys, why am I breaking paddles off this year at my release on a rigger? It has happened 2-3 times. I don't think I'm doing anything different than I usually do. I don't understand. The rod releases and the paddles gone. I've also popped the release intentionally, only to have the paddle break off.Using Blacks release.We run a bead chain with about a 2 to 3 foot leader in front of the paddle. This will stop the line twist which is causing your break offs.
Great Gazoo Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Makes sense. Just to be clear.. Main line to swivel, to bead chain, 2-3 feet leader, to swivel to paddle?
BIGTREBLE Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 We tie the main line to the bead chain, then the 2 to 3 foot leader then tie a swivel to the end of the leader.
Bad Dog Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 I have a question regarding a 12" paddle is it supposed to sway back and forth in the water or spin? Boomer,I'm gonna watch next time I send one down. I think they sway at slower speeds and do a big roll if pulled faster.
jdh Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 If you look at this video, you can see this paddle actually reverses direction occasionally. you can also see the fly wandering around behind it.
Bad Dog Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Makes sense. Just to be clear.. Main line to swivel, to bead chain, 2-3 feet leader, to swivel to paddle?You shouldn't need a leader in front of the paddle. If you want to fasten a bead chain put a snap on it. Regarding break-offs....I know some guys like lighter test lines on down riggers. l use 20 pound for spoons and prefer heavier for pulling attractors. I don't like loosing big fish and expensive tackle. 20 pound test should be okay if there are no other issues. Check for nicks regularly. Cut off bad line and re-tie if necessary. Inspect your guides for cracks. Use a Q-tip to find small cracks difficult to see with the naked eye. If you think it's due to line twist. Try a better quality snap swivel. Check the barrel swivel on the front of the paddle.
gmfishon Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 I am with bad dog. I have never lost one using 20lb min and good quality swivels.
FishKnocker Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 Some of the flasher brands do not have the angled rotating fin - they still rotate if trolled fast enough - and possibly if the meat rig is not too heavy? Question - do most guys use a loop knot & tie your fly directly to the split ring on the flasher? or use a snap or ball bearing swivel? thinking w/o the swivel on the fly end would give better action? not sure -
Far Beyond Driven Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 Check the wire arm on the blacks release for sharp edges, especially the end.
AllenW Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 We run a bead chain with about a 2 to 3 foot leader in front of the paddle. This will stop the line twist which is causing your break offs.Having trouble finding bead chain with ends, can you help?tiaal
RedRider Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Gnarf, whats your standard leader lenght on the poofster fly behind the big paddle?
Nailer Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 I realize this is an older post, but hey its cold outside. If you let your riggers down too fast, the paddle can loop around the down rigger wire.
Markosmania Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 My question is this, Snap swivels on paddles are huge. What size snap swivles should I be using for connecting to leader or anything to main line, or to spoons?
CITM Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 I tie the large swivels directly to my leaders for dipsies, I have heavy leaders on dipsies dedicated for running flashers. I use Torpedo 30 lb swivels on rigger rods and long lines, so if I'm using paddles or spin doctors on those lines, I'll clip the 30 lb swivel to the big swivel that comes with those attractors. Hopefully that makes sense. The swivels that come with most paddles and spin doctors are huge so they can freely rotate in the flasher without getting bent. Some brands of flashers come with a smaller swivel attached to them, you can hook the smaller snap swivels directly to those.
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