AllenW Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 I have been using the Cannon offshore release and wandering the forum I found a thread on people using the chamberland release, I also see the Big Jon release mentioned.I like the idea of being able to load the rod up more and not have it release.Both look a bit similar and I was wondering is one preferred over the other?I fish Superior mostly for Trout and Salmon, using spoons for the most part on the riggers.TIAAl
fishsniffer Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 another one to throw in the mix is the blacks release.also able to load that one up.
Line Dancin Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 the advantage of the chamberlains is for lite hitting fish like walleye/silver bass. Theye are a littp pricey though. Only time i use them is for fishing on lake erie for eyes. For what you are doing i would look at the blacks releases.
AllenW Posted January 27, 2014 Author Posted January 27, 2014 another one to throw in the mix is the blacks release.also able to load that one up. Ok, thanks, make it which one of the three is preferred?
Dr Hook Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 I fish with Chamberlain's and like them better than the Offshore releases but I might have to try Blacks. Even when tightened down the Chamberlain's tend to release over 3 mph on GPS.
SeaCatMich Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 I used the Blacks/Dubro/Walker arm release for years and they work well -- actually used the Dubro version because it has the snap to connect to the ball built in. I have never been a fan of the pinch pad releases. Changed to the Chamberlain for the last 4 seasons because of the dual adjustments. While they are great for Erie/Saginaw Bay walleye to prevent dragging small fish around, I also like them to be able to have different strike settings for spoons/plugs verses flashers. Being able to set it lighter for early spring Coho and Browns is also nice.
AllenW Posted January 27, 2014 Author Posted January 27, 2014 I fish with Chamberlain's and like them better than the Offshore releases but I might have to try Blacks. Even when tightened down the Chamberlain's tend to release over 3 mph on GPS. As I think of this I might add Northern and Musky fishing to the mix, seems the Chamberlain will work for great lakes trout and salmon, but might release if I try trolling larger baits at +3mph I have a idea to try trolling for these fish running the downriggers at 15-30 foot using suspended hardbaits, any suggestions for this? Would the blacks hold? Maybe I need both? Al
tbromund Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 I know a lot of people love the Blacks releases, but I've always preferred the pinch pad type myself. I use the large Scotty releases with the long tether. you can absolutely load the crap out of those releases without getting false releases and with the long tether, shakers are clearly telegraphed to the rod tip, even with a fully loaded rod, so you're not dragging them around.Tim
AllenW Posted January 27, 2014 Author Posted January 27, 2014 I know a lot of people love the Blacks releases, but I've always preferred the pinch pad type myself. I use the large Scotty releases with the long tether. you can absolutely load the crap out of those releases without getting false releases and with the long tether, shakers are clearly telegraphed to the rod tip, even with a fully loaded rod, so you're not dragging them around.Tim Is this what you mean? Scotty 1173 Powergrip Plus Line Release w/ 48" Leader & Cable Snap Do they seem to work better than the Cannon offshore ones? I had the feeling there was no simple answer for this, appears I might have to pick up one each of the Chamberlains, Blacks and Scotty's and make a fishing trip out of it. Al
SUPERTRAMP Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Just a vote for the #33 rubberband using a cannon bandbuster release. If you want to troll 11" paddles or big plugs just doubleup. You will see the rod shake before it releases and you get more positive hookups. 2 ways to attach the band to the line, spin it or take 1 wrap around 2 fingers and put the band thru the loop, pull the loop tight and it is a no slip set
AllenW Posted January 27, 2014 Author Posted January 27, 2014 Just a vote for the #33 rubberband using a cannon bandbuster release. If you want to troll 11" paddles or big plugs just doubleup. You will see the rod shake before it releases and you get more positive hookups. 2 ways to attach the band to the line, spin it or take 1 wrap around 2 fingers and put the band thru the loop, pull the loop tight and it is a no slip set I see Big Jon's has them, they might work well for the big baits, just keep adding rubber bands till the bait doesn't trip it, Musky are not usually a meek biter..
cliftp Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 I have been using the Cannon offshore release and wandering the forum I found a thread on people using the chamberland release, I also see the Big Jon release mentioned.I like the idea of being able to load the rod up more and not have it release.Both look a bit similar and I was wondering is one preferred over the other?I fish Superior mostly for Trout and Salmon, using spoons for the most part on the riggers.TIAAlI've been using the Chamberlains for the last three years. They have been great. I used the Big Jon rubber band release ones before that, and they were OK, although I prefer not to use the rubber bands. Tried the Chamberlain stacker release. It seemed to work OK, however one of my fishing partners had an awe shucks and it ended up in the Lake somewhere. Don't think I'll replace it. Paul C.
mattmishler Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Blacks, Blacks, Blacks. No false release, set them for spring kings and cohos20-40 down, to big flashers down 240 feet, no need to have anything else.
trail11591 Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Add another vote for the blacks I can tighten it down to keep the rod loaded up with big paddles and meat Riggs or loosen it up if its a clean spoon
hear fishy fishy Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 I like blacks and chamberlain. Chamberlains tend to false release if going 3.4 or faster with a paddle. I had trouble with riders on the blacks. I didn't care as much for the chamberlain stackers as they can fall in the lake very easy if not careful.
tbromund Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Is this what you mean?Scotty 1173 Powergrip Plus Line Release w/ 48" Leader & Cable Snap Do they seem to work better than the Cannon offshore ones? I had the feeling there was no simple answer for this, appears I might have to pick up one each of the Chamberlains, Blacks and Scotty's and make a fishing trip out of it. Al Yes that's it, though you don't really need to go to the 48" leader, the 30" is more than enough. They work much better than the other ones, if you bury your line in the back of those it'll never release without a fish biting and if you're fishing deep, it takes some effort to pop them from the boat. Most of the guys I know, (including myself) use the large scotty planer releases, which is the same clip on a shower curtain ring for running long coppers off of big boards, they'll pull a 500'+ copper all day in heavy seas and not pop the release unless a fish hits. Tim
tom Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Blacks work great for me. Pinch pads not so good on a DR. Work fine on the Otter Boats.
AllenW Posted January 28, 2014 Author Posted January 28, 2014 Thanks all. I ended up ordering a pair of Scotty power grips and 2 Chamberlain releases, I'll pick up a couple Blacks at my local store and give them a whirl too, I'm getting the feeling I'll end up using which ones fit the style of fishing I'm doing at the time. Also looking at the Big Jons Band Buster for musky baits. Thanks goodness I only have two riggers. I also got a pair of Roemer stacker releases for Xmas, not sure how they will work, but I'll try them. Al
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