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Eric.....do you have reservations about running short copper instead of lead in the fall? I bought a bulk spool & could rig several shorts targeting dames depths as the 1-5 colors

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You need copper, much easier to bring in than lead, runs deeper. We now have 12 cooper rods and do not run lead anymore - feel every move the fish makes, much more fun than lead.

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268 fish this year, with 9 of them coming on my two copper rigs (225' 45# and 300' 45#)

I've had two trips this year where I've taken over 9 fish on one trip on my cores. If I were to get rid of two of the 23 rods I carry on the boat, they would be the copper rigs.

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Kevin I am only up to around 200 fish this year not one on lead core yet ( ok I hardly ever run it ) no fish on my mono divers no fish on my braid divers not one fish on a meat rig. My 100 to 450 coppers have been pounding fish since April no I am not gonna get rid of any of the non productive rods they will also catch fish. My hottest rods this year have been my 200 coppers with riggers 2nd and wire divers 3rd.

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I still run leadcore and copper.

I think it depends on how many lines you can run. Depending on how many people I have in the boat and what water depth I want to target - I will run a 1/2 core and a full core along with 200 and 300 feet of copper, dipseys and my down riggers. This set up allows me to cover the entire water column from 25 ft on down to whatever depth I'm running my Down Riggers at.

If there are only a couple of people in the boat I might stick the leadcore out on one side of the boat and the copper out on the other until I find out what depth the fish are biting in and switch the other side out to whatever is working.

You can cover the same depths as the leadcore using copper, but I believe that sometimes it is a good thing to be further back from the boat in shallower water. Others talk about the different action leadcore imparts to your spoons - Who knows.

I do know that having both set ups just gives you more choices.

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Unlike FBD... I live and die by the copper!!!

6-8 rods of it on most trips.

It is nice to run on a smaller boat because you can spread it out and not have as many issues at the back of the boat...

Now when trolling trout.... riggers divers thats it

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Copper vrs lead core, they both have their best uses and can be the best rod of the day. I consider them both stealth presentations, but consider the copper a little lees so. I look for ways to best cover the target - productive depth. Like many I had a good collection of LC rods before copper got to be the hot topic. I have had great luck with it, wouldn't want to leave the dock without it. To me, to run anything larger than a 10 color LC is too long and the rig gets to big, hard to handled for most. Other than a SWR of a rigger, if the fish are under 40' copper is a stud of a presentation. Shorter one work too, but when funds or storage space is an issue, I don't see enough of a differance in presentation or performance to have both rigged for similar depth. Try something 300' or longer with a good reel. Okuma makes a nice copper LC rod about 45$ I think. It has a triangular foregrip keeps the reel up and from wanting to spin in your hand.

As another poster wrote, if he's a good and / or smart boyfriend ......

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Unlike Dave Ash I can effectively target fish in 20-70' of water with my long lines.

Inside joke, Dave was on a copper bender this year and the fish moved up into 60 FOW and he freaked out as his coppers ran deeper than that.....

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I recommend running both copper and lead core also,

and letting the fish tell you what they want. Keep in mind you may want to use a larger planer board with copper if using this as youre outside line.

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i prefer lead core over copper. the main reason is that you do have to let out more line to get down further. i know it is less work to run copper because it goes down quicker but i feel the reason lead has always outproduced copper on my boats is that it is WAY BACK. i think the farther away from the boat the better, 100' leads on the riggers or a 2 color, and divers set on 3 so i can get em way back.

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