jimcr Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 Ok just bought 2 big jon electrics and I am wondering how you guys get the bead from the auto stop to pass through the antenna for the Depth Raider. As of right now I am using my manual for the probe but would like to set up to use the electric , I don't want to crimp the cable either don't want to weaken the cable as I have already donated a probe to the deep. I have heard that the scotty auto stop bead should work and that is not crimped on .
jimcr Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 That helps with the bead and crimp, what about getting the bead through the antenna for a depth raider?
Sea Eagle Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 I took 4" of 1/2 dia copper tube and flared the ends, drilled a hole in one end, use a SS nut and bolt to hook the cut off antenna to it and zip tied it to my Big Jon Pro Tournament DR boom.Here are a couple of photos:http://www.greatlakesfisherman.com/gallery/files/3/1/9/dept_raider_antenna.jpgI rerouted the wires underneath the gunnels using a rubber boot since this photo was takenhttp://www.greatlakesfisherman.com/gallery/files/3/1/9/depth_raider.jpgPS: those scotty beads work great. I put one on each end my Big Jon bead stop
prop nut Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 use the scotty beads in place of the crimps put the antena as close to the cable reel as pisible so the stop bead does not have to go thru it one great reason to use a fish hawk over any thing with a coated cable no coated cable to deal with or the antena that the cable has to pass thru
tbromund Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 The antenna that comes with the Depth Raider is big enough diameter that the Scotty beads pass right through it.Tim
jimcr Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 Well when I was putting the boat away for the season I ran into another problem and I have to fix the cable behind the unit with the readout. It seams that after 2 seasons the plugs have come apart on both ends. I wish when we pay high dollar for equipment that it would last a good long time and not come apart. At least it was at the end of the season not the start.. I will most likely make the same antenna set up as you posted. With another cable and keep the other antenna on my manual unit. Only bummer is that I have to replace the clincher on the end of the cable.
Sea Eagle Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 I just put a couple of wraps of electrical tape around it to keep it together. I only need to remove it at the end of the season.
prop nut Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 clinchers should be reusable you just have to push it apart with a screw driver this is a cannon set up we have to leave some bare cable to make the auto stops work with the big jon we leep the cable coverd and the tail out of the clichers gets a bullet splice to the probe to make it easily removable
jimcr Posted November 26, 2011 Author Posted November 26, 2011 clinchers should be reusable you just have to push it apart with a screw driver this is a cannon set up we have to leave some bare cable to make the auto stops work with the big jon we leep the cable coverd and the tail out of the clichers gets a bullet splice to the probe to make it easily removable are you using SS wire connectors ? I am using something similar for the probe ,it doesn't connect to the eye on the probe it relies on the weight on the cable to make its connection. How deep will the probe give you the temp and speed done this way? Jim
prop nut Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 With this set up in the picture above 150' with 100% reliability with the big john set up where you dont need any bare wire 200' yes we use ss connectors we also will use charging system filters when needed and never route the signal cable over the rigger motor or by and speakers or with and hot wires that cary a charging system current these will all interfeer with signal quality and strenth we dont install a lot of depth raiders or any other that use coated signal carring cable the fish hawk x4 has raised the bar when it comes to speed and temp probes and after you have to change a coated cable a couple times the price savings is gone as soon as the coating gets beat up or starts cracking frome use or old age you signal reliability is gone and its time for a new cable These are all great tools when used properly and understanding what they are telling us as in the pictures below Its amazing what kind of currents you can have as in these here on a flat calm day with out the speed and temp probe fishing on a day like this speed wise would be pure luck you would not think this could be posible on such a calm day but the numbers dont lie you can see on the graff where we where checking temps and speeds at different depths by the time we got the down speed dialed in we where at speed over ground .9 to get a 2.3 speed at the ball then it was GAME ON doubles and tripples filled the box quick
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