pikeman8 Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 I am planning on setting up two more divers (wire) next year as my divers this year accounted for nearly all my "large" kings. I currently only run two braid divers and the setups are Talora 9'6" rods with Tekota 500LC reels. I have already purchased two Tekota 600LC reels for the wire but am torn as to what length rods to get. I am planning on getting Talora rods once again in the medium heavy weight but should I get shorter, longer, or the same length for the rods. Should the inside ones be shorter? I have been on a friends boat and all diver rods were the same length. Any thoughts? Thank You and have a Merry Christmas.
Pioneer Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 They can be the same length but I like my inside divers to be on a shorter rod. I have a 8.5' wire on the inside and a 10' wire on the outside. Love wire. I also have a 7' roller for my diver rod down the shoot, charter secret here in sturgeon bay.
Nailer Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 Talora Wire line rods. 8'-0" is a great rod. I got mine from Franks great outdoors in Linwood. Site located here
1mainiac Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 It is more a choice depending on the distance between the rod holders if they are close together than staggering the rod length is more important.
Adam Bomb Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 I like the outside rod longer, but you can use the same length. Have done both and prefer the longer. Easier IMO to reset the outside diver rod. I run the Daiwa Heartland Roller Rods in 8'6 and then a pair of braid divers on the outs that are 9' 6". Works great. My Rod holders are 12" on center and i run the outside rod slightly higher than the inside. That way theres no chance it could ever get into the other rod.
Just in time Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 I would suggest the 8 foot Talora. I run 3 dipseys off each side when the lake is less than 3 foot waves. My rods are 20 inches apart and the rod lengths are 8' wire, 9' wire and 10.5 power pro. The 7' talora is nice too but it is 1 piece.
Sea-Mac Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 I would say get 10' 6" Talora's. It will allow you to go with longer leaders if need be and you wont have to go to the front of the boat to net the fish.Then switch the wire diver reels to the 9' 6" Taloras, and have your braid set ups on the 10' 6".
Pioneer Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 As long as you are bringing up leaders-I increased all my leaders last year to 12 feet, even on my 7' taloras down the shoot. Divers have never been so hot. Learned the trick from a bunch of Lake O. guys on another site. They ran some 18'ers and used a leader man to net. If you run with 3-5 guys in the boat try it, me likey.
KJ pluggin Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 As long as you are bringing up leaders-I increased all my leaders last year to 12 feet, even on my 7' taloras down the shoot. Divers have never been so hot. Learned the trick from a bunch of Lake O. guys on another site. They ran some 18'ers and used a leader man to net. If you run with 3-5 guys in the boat try it, me likey. I may have to try that, how heavy of leaders do you use for your dipsies?
Pioneer Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 Kyle, all leaders are 50lb so you can grab it and hand line in with no worries. 40lb would work well too I suppose. I use just plain Big Game, same stuff on my fly leaders. Probibly the biggest reason my per trip average in june and july was over 15 before that august swoon we had. Give me a shout next year, planning 4-5 trips. White Baha 277GLE, Pioneer is my handle, staying at Quarterdeck.
mattmishler Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 I run 3 dipseys off each side when the lake is less than 3 foot waves. .Three a side???? How many tangles do you get with them?? I fish two per side alot and get tangles hear and there its gotta be worse with 3 oh and what size divers are you running and the setting?
1mainiac Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 My boat is setup for 3 divers per side seldom run them but can if need be. Usually only do it on harbor patrol which I try to avoid to begin with but my harbor patrol setup is 9 lines 2 riggers 6 divers and a 5 color off the stern. If we are hitting fish the 5 color goes back in the cabin. What I run is 2 wire divers 124 Walkers on 1.5, 2 107 Walkers on 2.5 on braid and 2 Slide divers on on mono. Inside the basin I keep everything between 15 and 20 ft down the divers add width and very few issues doing it.
Rascal Trophy Fishing Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 Hmm, talking about divers, I know a Charter in Sheboygan, Wis. that only uses divers all around the boat, no riggers or lead. SorryCharlieSportfishing. com I believe. Randy is quite a fisherman too. He also mfrs. and sells the slide divers direct and has samples if you ask politely. Tell him I sent ya. Thanks.
Yankee Troller Posted December 28, 2010 Posted December 28, 2010 We run 2 wires on each side when it's a "King" bite. We use Daiwa Heartland diver rods. One set is on the 9'6" diver rods and the other is on the 10'6" diver rods. I'd love to get the Heartland 8' roller rod and give 3 wires a shot, but on Lake Ontario we are only allowed 2 rods per person, and we love our coppers! We like the separation we get with the different size rod, but I think we would do just fine with both sets running the 9'6" rods. I know Billy V uses the 9'6" Heartland for his high and low divers and doesn't have any issues.
Just in time Posted December 28, 2010 Posted December 28, 2010 Most tangles with Dipseys happen if you do not drive straight and when setting lines out. I use a slide diver set on 4 no ring. Next rod is a number 1 set on 2 with or with out ring. Inside rod is magnum with a ring. I usually only have a tangle if someone lets one out too quick. Let the diver pull to its place and let the drag slowly let the line out. Catch alot of fish on the way down. If you fish any tournaments long leaders are not legal. You can not hand line fish on the tournament trail. If you want a long lead run slide divers. Just my 2 cents.
ChampionShip Posted December 28, 2010 Posted December 28, 2010 Hmm, talking about divers, I know a Charter in Sheboygan, Wis. that only uses divers all around the boat, no riggers or lead. SorryCharlieSportfishing. com I believe. Randy is quite a fisherman too. He also mfrs. and sells the slide divers direct and has samples if you ask politely. Tell him I sent ya. Thanks.He also runs planer boards that are bigger than most peoples' bed frames.....they run some different stuff down there, and alot of them are just using pump handles.
pikeman8 Posted January 8, 2011 Author Posted January 8, 2011 What are your thoughts about running standard rods with twilli tips with wire? Will this work or would it be better with a roller rod. I Usually only fish 20-30 days a year for salmon.
Nailer Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 What are your thoughts about running standard rods with twilli tips with wire? Will this work or would it be better with a roller rod. I Usually only fish 20-30 days a year for salmon.Twilli tips are just fine.
Pioneer Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 JR'S tackle rods out of MPLS have tungstun guides, no twilli's if you are interested. Chris
KJ pluggin Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 JR'S tackle rods out of MPLS have tungstun guides, no twilli's if you are interested. ChrisChris, do you ever have issues with the wire kinking at the tip of the rod because of the small radius?
killerbe20 Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 http://www.daiwa.com/rod/detail.aspx?id=168best wire diver rods i have ever used
KJ pluggin Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 http://www.daiwa.com/rod/detail.aspx?id=168best wire diver rods i have ever usedI never would have thought that those rods would stand up to wire diver abuse. I may have to look into them some more.
killerbe20 Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 when we first though of trying it, the captain i was working with at the time called daiwa and they said they would back their product.eight - ten years later they have held up incredibly! only the two line guide eyes and they have never shown any signs of wear. they are the only rods i have ever used for wire since i started chartering seven years ago. actually the only rods i use except for long core and copper.
1mainiac Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 Might consider them for wire never thought of that had a set years ago problems with mono and braid sent them to a yard sale fast. The Sea Fleas killed em for braid and had very poor luck with mono thru them. Don't remember if they were the same rod they were white and I hated them.
killerbe20 Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 we actually started with some cheaper white ones, not sure the brand but they were not daiwas, hated them. switched to the daiwas and have never gone back! the biggest problem i have with them is the cotton wood in the early summer. that can be a huge pain. all the advantages of inline rods definitely out weighs the few issues for me.
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