slickwater Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 I have seen it all now. Last week I was salmon fishing in Petoskey and landed a nice hen full of eggs. So I let her go above the falls. I was yelled at by some other fishermen that there was an Indian with a spear. And as I turned around he speared the fish i just let go.This is so wrong. What is wrong with this country.
Sea-Mac Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Great.. just what we need, a salmon flavored slurpee
steeliebob Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 They can do just about everything except throw dynamite at them. I will give the Sault Tribe credit that they do plant loads of fish in the EUP so I don't complain when they catch a few. Even if it is with a net or snag hook. I have not seen anyone spear one yet though. I bet that one tasted real good too, it probably fell apart when he got it to shore.
slickwater Posted October 29, 2010 Author Posted October 29, 2010 Bob, Fall a part? I caught one there yesterday and kept it. I had an Indian yesterday tell me he can't keep a foul hooked fish but if he releases one above the falls he can net it,spear it or just grab it with his hands.
hfitch Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 my opinion all this equal rights for everyone, oh we took your land and oh, we made you guys slaves so we owe you the world crap needs to STOP. I have absolutely no problem with ANY race but please people, it's 2010 already! Enough of this b.s., what's good for one should be good for all!! EQUAL RIGHTS, I don't think so any more. I'm sorry if this offends any one but think about. Really, is it equal rights when one race can spear fish and another can't. Or only a certain color of skin can go to certain colleges. Please, equal rights for who?
slickwater Posted October 30, 2010 Author Posted October 30, 2010 Yes equal rights(but that will never happen). One of my friends dads said they should fish like they did years ago. Having to use birch bark canoes none of these diesel engine boats.And they should have to put back what they take. Also they even have more hunting rights than we do. And we are paying for with our hunting and fishing license fees. They don't pay for nothing to hunt and fish.
MY2SONS Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 my opinion all this equal rights for everyone, oh we took your land and oh, we made you guys slaves so we owe you the world crap needs to STOP. I have absolutely no problem with ANY race but please people, it's 2010 already! Enough of this b.s., what's good for one should be good for all!! EQUAL RIGHTS, I don't think so any more. I'm sorry if this offends any one but think about. Really, is it equal rights when one race can spear fish and another can't. Or only a certain color of skin can go to certain colleges. Please, equal rights for who? I agree 100%.They have no right to piss and moan anymore.
steeliebob Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 You can bring this up on your computers, go to the MDNRE website and look ah how many fish that the MDNRE plants in Emmett, Cheboygan, Mackinac, and Chippewa Counties and compare that with the Triblal Plants. Not defending the tribe but damn the tribe puts in 100 fish to every one that the DNRE plants. If I could I would be buying my license from the tribe.Like I have mentioned in other posts the MDNRE runs a presidential motorcade of hatchery trucks to the SW lower penninsula. The rest of the state gets the bottom of the barrell. I would wager that anymore 25% or more of the planted fish come from special interest groups.
Boltman Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 bob, how do you know how many fish are planted by the tribes? Is there a website for this...
hfitch Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 I don't care who plants the fish, actually, the rules should be for everyone. They don't let us catch fish by any means we want and it's our tax and license dollars going to fund the DNRE fisheries. Like I said, the situation was unfortunate years ago, but it's 2010 almost 2011, what's good for one is good for all.
steeliebob Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 On your search engine type in Nunns Creek Hatchery and go to the top listing about tribal hatcheries. You would be amazed at how many fish are planted by the tribes. Give them another 10 years and they will be way ahead of the DNR. What is interesting is that the tribe will go out of their way to make sure that the fish they plant don't wind up in a bunch of sea gulls bellies. They actually plant fish under the ice, at night, and through a slow release off from boats. I have spent 10 years trying to get the DNR to plant brown trout in Northern Lake Huron and Michigan. I have not had any luck with the DNR. If I were to present the same request to a member of the Sault Tribe Conservation Committee I would be willing to bet that within a year or two some brown trout get planted.
JWheeler Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 From what I understand after reading that is Nunns looks primarily like a walleye planting facility, which is great! And the DNR also plants about 250K salmon there yearlyHere's the linkhttp://www.fws.gov/midwest/ashland/TribalIndex.html
minnow Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 The tribes do a ton of work involving fish studies and habitat studies which is presented to the DNR. It is easier for them to do this with the grant monies they receive from the feds and it benifits EVERYONE not just the "Redskins". Thank your forfathers for what they agreed to.
Yoda Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 If your really interisted who is planting what, Where, and how many. here's the link to look it up.http://www.michigandnr.com/fishstock/default.asp
steeliebob Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 The DNR has to plant the 250,000 salmon as part of the tribal consent decree. Without rhe consent decree those salmon would be planted elsewhere. As far as I am concerned the tribes are doing a pretty good job in fisheries management.
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