kuz Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) See in today's paper the University of Notre Dame found that the carp have breached the river into the shipping canal. Now it is a matter of time.www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/70573047.html Mlive.comDetroit Free PressThis is a quote from the Detroit Free PressThe DNA was detected in a channel that splits off the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal below Chicago, and leads to Lake Michigan, known as the Cal-Sag channel. “That is what we understand,” said Jennifer Nalbone, director of Great Lakes United’s campaign against invasive species. DNA testing of water samples near the electric barrier on the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal taken beyond the barrier and Lake Michigan on Sept. 23 and Oct. 1 shows the presence of Asian carp about 1 mile south of the O’Brien Lock, about 8 miles from Lake Michigan, the Army Corps of Engineers and other agencies said today. Previously, DNA of Asian carp has been found a mile below the barrier.“This DNA evidence is the best we have, and we believe it’s very accurate. But what we have not done is to find an actual carp body in these areas where sampling is telling us their genetic material may be. We still have not seen an actual carp show up.” Edited November 20, 2009 by GLF Added additional links and information
GLF Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 Time to kill everything in the river from Lake Michigan down!They should have done this a long time ago!
jay d Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 and then fill it in!ill bring my shovel and a few friends you bring yours:angry2:
Line Dancin Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 Just saw the artical on wood tv and was going to post it. I agree they can poison the whole river it will come back.
Adam Bomb Posted November 21, 2009 Posted November 21, 2009 Theyre already in the lake. Saw one in the dumpster in Manistee in late June. Probably 48" long and a good 40-50#.
Walleye Express Posted November 21, 2009 Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) Adam. That may have just been another carp species of some sort. I caught a specie of Buffalo carp last year on the Saginaw, and thought it was a Big Head myself until the DNR identified it. Big Heads and Silvers are also both Plancton filter feeders, so it's my guess that nobody caught that dumpster turd conventionally on hook and line. And few (if any) people I've ever seen will take the time to pick up a dead carp to simply toss it in the dumpster. I hope enough people know what these things at least kinda look like so if any of them do show up they call the DNR like I did to report it. These fish may be the most serious threat to our Great lakes then anything we've seen up until now. They need to poison their natal river on a regular basis and install a permanent (leak proof) barriers NOW before it's to late for all of us. Edited November 21, 2009 by Walleye Express
joelsanders Posted November 21, 2009 Posted November 21, 2009 why in the hell did someone have them in a pond in the first place? is there a reason someone would want to have them , commercial use? WTF? WHY ARE THEY HERE!??
Walleye Express Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 I'm researching that right now Joe. When and if the professor gets back to me I'll let you know. Research: Invasive Carp Biology and Management | Sorensen Lab | College of Food, Agricultural and Natural Resource Sciences |.
JWheeler Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 Click on the detroit free press and watch vidoe I & video II about these carp. The number of fish in the rivers is insane! KILL EM ALL!!! They are nothing but bad news for the great lakes. How is it possible that more has not been done about this sooner?
DIRTY DOG Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 i have a idea, why not sell them for cat food instead of netting alwives. but i agree KILL THEM ALL!
huntingfool43 Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 i have a idea, why not sell them for cat food instead of netting alwives.but i agree KILL THEM ALL! Actually they thought about it but decided aginst. They did not want to creat a demand for for fear everyone would want to grow them for extra money. Joe They were first brought here to clean up the catfish ponds down south. No one fore saw what would happen if things flooded and now we are stuck with the after math.
Walleye Express Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 I've persoanlly heard that there is one guys netting them and they are supposed to not taste to bad.
KJ pluggin Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 I agree they can poison the whole river it will come back.Sacrifices have to be made, the Great Lakes are too important.
flyman013 Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 I've persoanlly heard that there is one guys netting them and they are supposed to not taste to bad. I've heard this too. We've eliminated species of fish by commercial fishing before, maybe we can do it again with these carp:D
KJ pluggin Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 I've persoanlly heard that there is one guys netting them and they are supposed to not taste to bad. If it means keeping them out of the Lakes I'll eat a carp
Priority1 Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 After poisoning the river, they should poison the SOBs that brought them here.
LongLine Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 Heartland developed a way to grind them up. Don't know if they had much of a market though. http://www.pjstar.com/news/x1092974114/Havana-plant-takes-aim-at-carpFrom what I understand the original farmers that brought them in are long dead now.They ought to just fill in that canal anyways.
jay d Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 i know some of them were introduced to help treat sewage problems.hope they dont make it to the lake but with the way our government works they will be a day late and a dollar short with their response.it will be a sad day my friends:mad:
JWheeler Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 i know some of them were introduced to help treat sewage problems.hope they dont make it to the lake but with the way our government works they will be a day late and a dollar short with their response.it will be a sad day my friends:mad: That's what is really worrysome, is that there is talk that they are close, well I hope they're not, but it is possible that they are already in the lake hopefully not in any numbers. Regardless, they need to be wiped out!!!!!
Just Hook'n Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 You can be assured that if the "government" says they are close, they are already here. They are always behind the game. Just look at their "plan". We know they are passed the barrier and we are going to wait until December to poison the river. GREAT. Wait for the problem to get worse before we plan to do anything about it.
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