Adam Bomb

Hey Tony, welcome to GLF. Your boat will work fine on Saginaw Bay. Just watch the weather and use common sense as on any big body of water. Its a great fishery, i live two miles from it. Once you get a little taste of it you wont be able to get enough. Be safe and have fun out there.

Nice mixed bag!!!

Nice work, sounds like a great day with the Kids.

Nice work Nick. If you dont have a game plan on where to go shoot me a PM next time. I ususally have a handle on the where and on what.

Congratulations...good luck down there, i hope you do well.

Thats fishing. At least the rest went well for ya...Good shakedown cruise.

Welcome aboard Mike. This is one of the friendliest and most informal sites on the net. I think youll like it here.

Great way to start the season.

Sounds like allot of fun Bromley, way to go!

20# on the riggesr is plenty IMO. Never had any problems with it. Id definitely beef up your dipsey rods. Your in for allot of lost tackle with 20# mono on them. Theres allot of torque there when you combine the pull of a dipsey, lure combo and a big salmon knocking the daylights outta it. Id go to braid in the 30-50# range. I use power pro.

I run 20# mono on my rigger rods.

Buddy Dave called and had a few hours to burn between morning mass and Easter dinner so he called to see if i wanted to hit the bay for a bit in the new Triton. So, not having much going on during that time myself, i headed up to Linwood and out we went with him. Fished from 14-20' of water. Water has stained with the rain and wind and fish were definitely more scatterd than earlier this week. Anyhow, we ended up 4 for 6 in our short time out. #9 Shad Raps 60 and 100' back took fish as well as a Deep Thunderstick Jr. 80' back. The shad raps were definitely better today. Temps were about 48* today. Again the fish we caught were all pre spawn fish. Had one small female and three males. Boat ran and fished great. Everytime i get in a boat with a Verado im blown away at how quiet they are along with the things they do. Had us going 0.8-1.2 with that 250 and you didnt even know it was on. What an amazing motor! And when it was time to scoot it had us rippin' in at 57.3 mph....From the Kathy Mattea's "455 Rocket" song...She's a rocket!!!!

Good luck Dan, i hope the guy comes through and you can get the boat you really want. Best of luck and Happy Easter.

Nice video. I have the same thing going on by my house right now. Cricks not as fast though.

Wow...great job, those are some pigs.

Nice job on a great trout.

Another method of attaching the rubberband, and the one i use when attaching to a release is to take the rubber band holding one end and then tightly wrapping the other around the line 4 or 5 times and then hook both loops of the rubber band in the release. If done correctly it will not slip on the line as a half hitch can with too much pressure on it.

Dont worry about the questions. Thats what forums like this are for. We were all in yoru shoes at one time or another and know where your coming from. The only dumb question is the one thats not asked. Back on topic...I am definitely using a release. I run the Walker terminator release which is a "blacks style" release which terminates my downrigger cable, is my release and attaches my cannonball. You can run a rubber band in this "blacks style release", big jons band buster release or on a pinch pad thats hooked to your cannon ball. I like rubberbands as they allow you to really crank the rod down eliminating as much slack between the rod and the cannon ball without popping the release. A rubber band is something not needed on a blacks style release because they are adjustable, but im a long time rubber band user and am slowly weining myself off them.

Good post, thanks for sharing so that others can learn from it. Glad you and your crew made it in now worse for the wear.

Happy Easter everyone.

I use a #16 rubber band, the same as youd use in a downrigger release. To half hitch, simply take the rubber band and wrap it aroudn the main line in the center of the band. Now, take and pass one end of the rubber band through the other and cinche tight. Now, take the snap on your slider and go around your main line and through the loop on the rubber band. That will fix the slider in position on your mainline. Sliders are a productive method of catching fish and i use sliders as long as im running spoons or plugs on my down riggers with short leads, say 40' or less, from the cannon ball to the mainline lure. The reason for this is that you have to retrieve that 40' of line in addition to the line from the "bow" down to the cannon ball before you ultimately tighten up on the fish....Which is the reason i dont fish a free slider when fishing deeper than say 60'...its just too much line to retrieve. Im more apt to put a fixed slider on in that situation and keep it 10'-20' or so above the ball. I dont run any sliders when im fishing with flashers and flies on the riggers. Your just asking for a mess doing so because the slider leader tends to wind together with the flasher and fly in my experience....There is a new method of using a double strand of dacron tied into your mainline and clipping the slider there, but that requires you to physically remove the slider when your reeling in a fish thats on the mainline. I have not tried that personally, so i cant comment on it. I can imagine it could make for some excitment though!!!!

Your welcome

Here ya go...great lookin boat by the way.

Yes, running sliders whether its a free or fixed slider will allow you to run two baits off one rod. Heres how ya do it: Free Slider Ok, you set your lure on your rod and send it down to the desired depth. Even though you crank the rod down tight there is still a bow in the line that extends rearward between the rod tip and the cannon ball because of water drag. Now, you take another piece of mono, say 6' in lenght and tie only a duolock snap on one end and a ball bearing swivel w/duolock snap on the other end. Put your spoon on the swivel end and attach the opposite end to your mainline on your rod and toss it over the back of the boat. The lure will ride the line down and stop when it hits the bow in the line. A common theory is that the lure will ride down half your depth. So say your cannon ball is at 70', then your free slider is at 35'. Fixed Slider To run a fixed slider say 10' above the ball you set your rod and run the bait down 10' then attach a slider in the same manner that you did with the free slider, only this time your going to half hitch a rubber band on the mainline and hook the snap around the line as well as the through the loop in the rubber band. This will keep the slider fixed at 10' above the ball. Once you have it attached toss it over the back and send the ball down to your desired depth. Say you put the ball down 60', the fixed slider would be at 50' in this case. You can put the fixed slider on your line anywhere you want. Just keep in mind that when using a fixed slider that if you get a fish on the main line lure youll need to either remove the slider when you get it to the boat or bust the band and let it go down to the lure with the fish. If you get a fish on a rod with a slider your going to need to reel like mad until you tighten up the line. Ecspecially in the case of the free slider as you have to reel the line up until you get the mainline swivel up to the snap on the free slider. With a fixed slider the fish will likely break the band shortly after the initial strike and then it will begin to slide down towards the mainline swivel. Thats why its so important to get right on a slider rig and get the slack out. It can be benefitial to leave the rod in the holder and crank like mad to catch up. Sounds crazy, but that short time saved between removal and starting to reel can really make a difference. Sliders are a great way to cover more of the water column with less rods. If you run two riggers with with 2 baits each your effectively probing 4 different depths. I usually stager mine so i have 10' between lures probing a 40' section of water. Hope this helps. If not, let me know and ill do my best to clear things up.

I love it. I worked on a charter boat that had pretty much custom everything on it. Planer masts and Nylon spools, rocket launcher, outriggers, dr bases, rod holders, net holders, swing down radar mount, custom beaver trol bracket for Bravo 3 outdrives(didnt offer one at the time), special line attachments for offshore planer board releases, release holder, fully collapsable planer boards w/rudder system and more im sure ive forgotten about. What a treat to have that trade at your disposal. Same guy i worked for on the charter built the rod holders on our boat....Tough to beat custom, theyre just right!....Congratulations on a great boat and a great project...Well done.