Rich, Ben just walked down and told me that he was dating your daughter! Small world!! I think I have the netcraft book at home, I might have most everything, except the rubber hose, I tie my own flies for steelhead and trout fishing. We will need to get together. One night afterwork would be great. Right now weekends are busy, I would like to hit the lake, but I am in the middle of a redoing my brothers house in Indiana, just found out he has cancer really bad, so big push to get it done, just in case! I will give you a call, or get with Ben. This week I think is pretty much shot, but maybe/hopefully next. Thanks, Look forward to meeting with you. matt