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Holland 7/17 am Solo. 2-4
2MD replied to SeaFoam's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
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Holland 7-12-24 morning.
2MD replied to Jolly Time's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
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the super early or super late bite seems to be the thing, off Holland at least 2 years ago about this time of year we left the pierheads 3days in a row at 4am and by sunrise we had at least a half a dozen fish... may have to try that again
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Port Sheldon AM 7/12/24
2MD replied to Lef T's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
impressive trip thanks for the report -
9 for 10 out of Holland (fished south more directly off Saugatuck though) 135FOW was the ticket SW troll and East troll was all that would work copp350 went with meat rig (big king weighing 23#) copp300 went with meat rig both 10 colors went with glow spoons copp200 went with glow spoon both riggers went with glow spoons hi dipsey went with meat rig low dipsey went with glow spoon fishing was shockingly slow until about 20 min after the sunset - literally 2 fish caught before 9.30PM we ended up with a triple at 10.30PM and managed to land all 3 and that was pretty exciting chaos and a lot of FUN - hats off to PUG and the gang we didn't even get a single tangle and the one fish we lost was just a pig of a king that smoked the dipsey so hard we thought it was going to snap the rod - we would've got this one too but we were finishing up on a double and trying to net fish
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Pentwater 7/4, 12-17
2MD replied to Mega Byte's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
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Holland 7-1-24 evening
2MD replied to Jolly Time's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
excellent report - thank you for all this good info -
PUG was gone for the night (had other commitments apparently) so we went fishing without him, which typically means you is about to get skunked. Fortunately we still managed 6 for 12 even with the odds stacked against us. Trolled south from Holland and eventually further south ending up a couple miles south of Saugatuck even. All hits came in that 120-132 fow All that worked for us was a SSW troll running with the strong current, hence why we wound up 14miles SW of Holland Meat went 5 or 6 times on Copp300 and Copp350 and deep diver High dipseys with flasher fly out about 150 went 3 or 4 times Rigger slider down 32ft got hit too Great night out to be out on the water!
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PUG had the itch to get out there again and we seen a little gap in the weather... ended up getting blown south so technically this is a Saugatuck report 5 for 8 2 medium size salmon 2 twenty#+ chinook 1 big laker all hits came in that 115-120fow 117fow was best on either a SW or SE troll rigger down 67 blue hulk spoon took half the bites (big king) deep braid diver out 115 scored with meat once (big king) copp300 happee meal spoon went (big laker) cop350 with meat went slider green dolphin type spoon down about 52 went at sunset ----- the boys' cousin got to reel in a fat 22# king and that was pretty cool had the deep diver boss king proceed to get into 3 different coppers and that added another 50min to the trip untangling all that and if that wouldn't have happened right at sunset PUG figures we would've caught another 3 or 4 fish but a great night nonetheless 20240627_180549.mp4
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PUG was wise to decide to take us fishing despite it being a little rough set lines at 730pm in 150fow ended up for 7for10 all action came on north or northeast troll in that 130-150fow meat rigs took 7 of the 10 bites copper 300 was hot (until just a beast of a king ran out 300ft and actually jammed the copper to backing knot into the orange board in such a way that it broke... we lost all the copper and the meat rig) deep braid diver out 130 also very active
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Holland 6-3
2MD replied to Aaron Nusbaum's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
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nice job in the Laker i sure struggled on Parker on Friday night - the flies were horrendous and we headed in 2hrs early the larger fish are extremely hard to come by in recent week or two that's for sure! Here is a 25.7# Laker that my son & captain Sam of Fowl Hooked boated in the Ladies Tournament out of GH on Friday. They ran all the way up to Whitehall and got it there. CONGRATS to them for winning big fish a second time! And yesterday somehow they managed an 11# brown off Mona Lake so I suspect they may grab the top in that species too!?
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first time out this season PUG has been down south nailing Tarpon and Goliath Grouper all winter so now he has to shift gears for Michigan 3for3 first fish was on dipsey at 6am while letting it out in 68fow on a west troll.. literally was the first rod I had set this year and it went off within 8seconds while I was slowly letting her out (60 out) so hopefully that is a good sign on what's to come other 2 fish came in a chaotic double in 78fow at around 745am on a NW troll both the 10 color went with a green jeans spoon and also the rigger went 38 down with a shelly snack spoon seemed quite out there on radio
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interesting you have identified the same pattern with naturals! yep I know you are very detailed and track things well. PUG knows a very smart captain in GH who has been doing this for 40 years and he explains it to him this way - the DNR screws up the stocking and here's how - at the weir where they harvest eggs and sperm they have 4 full time employees that all they do is pull kings out of a catch pen and extract eggs and sperm... all day long and all week long they do this. Now he says that he has sat and watched them work several times and they are not large adult individuals but more your 90-110 pound build and that then to no suprise when it comes to selecting fish to extract from that 90% of the time they pick the smaller scrawny less healthy ones and leave the big pigs down in the pen. Hence what happens is the plants have the less than superior dna & genes in most cases and/or the plants are not the behemoth 4yr dna but instead most likely your 2year old jack or 3yr old early runner. Makes sense to PUG. Makes sense to me too. Nonetheless quite frustrating. There is not a charter captain or amateur angler that wouldn't volunteer to do this work for free if it helped the fishery! PUG is even more contrarian and while the DNR has insisted for decades that there is no natural reproduction in the kzoo river he has spent a bunch of time up around swan creek in the fall and doesn't buy it for a second. They get it done up there and some of these naturals return every fall.
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Holland Evening 9/23
2MD replied to zgrinder on Fin Warrior's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
yes it has also been very very slow off GH for the few charters that ran trips this weekend (oldest son told me) the ones my kids and pugs got this weekend on Parker were DEEP - riggers down 110 with heavy ball - deep diver out 260 - high diver out 290 if you even can call it a high diver at that point all the graph bait and marks on top were just a distraction i guess... pug says be patient - cold water is coming... already 50 some degrees 60down in 90fow this evening according to the PS buoy... another day of east wind and pug is betting we can nail 3yr olds inside 100fow or better yet big kings in that 25-40fow -
port sheldon 9/22 PM
2MD replied to 2MD's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
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trolled for only about an hour while bringing boat around from west olive to holland tonight too warm to try in close so buzzed out to 170fow and setup there absolutely insane marks on graph top to bottom ended up 2for3 on three year old chinook was a blast what worked was white paddle out 220 on deep diver and also the other deep diver out 200 and then the rigger down 106 with spoon