We changed plans and went out of Ludington. Lost a motor 2 hrs in. (fuel pump). Thank god I have twins. Fished till 11:30 ish. Got 5 lakers in the boat, Kinda small so we let them go. crome & red, 50 to 60 f.o.w. between 20 & 35 ft down. then they turned off. My son caught his first,(he's hooked now). Heard a lot of chadder on the radio, sounds like it was slow for everyone. All in all, we had a blast. Thanx everyone for all the advice.