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Holland 8/13 AM Launched a bit after 5 am. Traveled to 140 fow about 2 miles South of Holland and had lines in by 6:30 am. We trolled from 140 fow out to 212 fow on a SSW direction most of the morning and ended up about 12 miles south of Holland varying speeds from about 2.0 to 2.5 mph at the ball down 85+. Caught 12 fish by 9 am and got another 5 while from 9 am to 11:30 am. The total was 17 for 24 with 8 coho, 5 kings, 2 steelhead and 2 smaller lakers. The temp break was between 80 and 95 down. What worked best (because every line we had got hit): 400 Copper - Moonshine Mag Blue Flounder RV - 4 Fish 400 Copper - Silver Streak Mag Blue Dolphin - 3 Fish Rigger 85-95 down - Moonshine Mag Flounder Pounder RV - HOT (Early) - 2 Fish Rigger 110-140 down - 11" White Paddle Dbl UV Tape & Poofster Fly - 2 Fish (Several Misses) This is the best day I've had on the water in a while! Can't wait to get back out. -JDH
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I've had trouble with other brands of paddle/fly combos but the one I've been running now for a few years has worked well. I just double checked the setup and it's a Luhr-Jensen Coyote Flasher Size 003 (11") in double UV. The best fly I've had on it is a Big Weenie Poofster fly tied about 42-inches back. I run the same setup in the spring for coho when they're in deep water but I shorten the fly to a 36" lead and I'll also cut the treble off and cut off 1/2 to 1-inch of the fly. I run it about 25 ft back (probably 20 to 30) because I just guess. It's usually my deepest lure. I'll run it just below the thermocline in the morning, and then as it gets light I'll drop it deeper - often about 30 to 40 feet below the temp break. This picture shows the fly I use when coho fishing.
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Holland 8-9 pm Kid Coulson and I fished from 7:15-10:00 pm. Went 5-6 all kings with 2 nice ones, the bigger one weighing in at 25.7 lbs at the dock. We fished 180-200 fow. Speed 2.3-2.6 at the ball - north troll was best. What worked: 2-2 downrigger down 110&135 - 11" white uv paddle & poofster fly 3-3 downrigger down 105,85,95 mag flounder pounder RV 0-1 slide diver on 3 back 275 ft - hammer time spin doctor & green/glow fly
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for sale Okuma GLT Dipsy Diver Rod 9' Twili Tip
jdh replied to jdh's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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for sale Okuma GLT Dipsy Diver Rod 9' Twili Tip
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Port Sheldon 8-6 am
jdh replied to jdh's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
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Port Sheldon 8-6 am Didn't find the big fish on Sunday morning but we had a good time and fished the water by ourselves. Only had to make 1 turn swing by another boat all morning! We found a bunch of bait and some smaller kings chasing them in 140-160 fow. Wound up going 6-8 with 4 kings & 2 lake trout. Ran a spread heavy with flasher flies & meat rigs, but the 400 copper with a spoon worked for us too. We went with a north Troll 2.5-3.0 at the ball and ended up in Grand Haven by the time we quit. What worked: Laker - Rigger down 110 - 11" white UV paddle and Poofster fly Laker - Mag Diver on 1.5 back 235 - 10" Spin Doctor Netminders UV Showtime & BW Spotted Dick Meat Rig King - 400 Copper - Mag Moonshine Blue Flounder King - Rigger down 135 - 11" Gibbs UV Red Stripe and a double fly (UV fly underneath a green fly) King - 400 Copper - Mag Moonshine Blue Flounder King - Mag Diver on 1.5 back 270 - 10" Spin Doctor Netminders UV Showtime & BW Spotted Dick Meat Rig
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Just checked the buoys and the wind appears to have done different things in different places. In Ludington/Pentwater the lake flipped and the cold water is in close. Fish will probably be in front of the piers. In Holland it pushed the warm water in and the fish will likely be out 5+ miles...
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To clarify my temperature thoughts - if it's a NW or NNW the water might cool down. If it ends up being a W or WNW maybe not. I'm hoping to be out fishing in Holland on Sunday and will be checking the buoy for cold water.
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With a NW wind the warm water is going to stack up near shore. I haven't ever fished Pentwater before but I would be wanting to look for stable water - so deep. I would probably start fishing in 100 fow near the bottom, but look for the cold water. With 6 lines I would probably run 1 rigger & 1 diver down deep, 1 diver or rigger just around 55-60 degree water & then figure out 3 boards to get 1 a bit above the 55-60 degree water, 1 in the 55-60 degree water and then 1 just below the 55-60 degree water. Also, would run mostly spoons & plugs and trying to cover ground at 3-3.5 mph. Slowing down occasionally for a few minutes to try and trigger a bite.
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Port Sheldon 7-30 am & pm Took a couple trips yesterday. Both trips fished about 3 miles north of piers - between the Grand Haven Fleet & Port Sheldon fleet. Only fished near 1 to 2 other boats. In the morning launched at 7:30 am and dropped lines around 8 am in 60 fow. We worked on a NW until stuff started firing in 95-105 fow. We stayed in that water for the rest of the morning going 5-8. Stopped fishing by 10:30 am. In the evening we launched at 7:30 pm dropping lines around 8:15 in 95 fow and stayed there for the night. Ended up 3 for 4. Stopped fishing at 10 pm. Notable fish were two of the steelies at about 10 lbs which provided multiple aerial displays for us and a nice king just shy of 20 lbs. What worked: AM - North & South Troll 3.0-3.5 mph at the ball King - 300 Copper - Moonshine Yellow Flounder Mag Steelie x 2 - 100 Copper - Superslim Lemon Ice King - 400 Copper - Moonshine Blue Flounder RV Mag Laker - Rigger at 40 ft - 8" Green Bikini Bottom UV Spin Doctor & Yellow/Green Fly PM - North & South Troll 2.5-3.0 mph at the ball Steelie - 150 Copper - Moonshine Green Shorts Halfmoon Series Laker - Mag Diver back 150 - Pro King 8" Blue Baracuda Paddle & Blue Fly Steelie - 100 Copper - Superslim Lemon Ice
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7-21 am - Port Sheldon The the King Possible out of Port Sheldon this morning with my dad and a friend of ours. Got out on the water and set lines at 6:30 and fished until 10 am. Ended up 3-8: 1 steelhead (7 lbs), 1 king (25+ lbs), and 1 coho (10 lbs). I said 25+ for the king because I don't trust my scale, but he was 38-inches long. We fished the from 6:30 to 8:00 am in 100-140 fow going 2 for 3, and then worked out and finished up in 160-170 fow picking up 5 more bites and pulling in a big coho. The fish liked it a little fast this morning and we mainly fished S/SW at 3.0-3.6 at the ball. What worked: 2-2 Steelie/Coho - 300 Copper with a Moonshine Mongolian Beef Spoon 1-1 King - Downrigger at 91 ft with an 11" white UV paddle and BW poofster fly. 0-3 - Wire Mag Dipsy on 2 back 135-145 feet with a 10" Kevin's Girlfriend SD & JJ's Boyfriend Meat Rig 0-1 - Wire Size 1 Dipsy on 2 back 155 feet with a 10" Netminders UV Showtime & BW Spotted Dick Meat Rig 0-1 - 300 Copper with a Glow Back Mag Silver Streak Blue Dolphin
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Holland 5-21 AM
jdh replied to tgafish's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
I saw the picture before reading your post and said - "Is that an atlantic?". Awesome. -
Port Sheldon 5/14 am I've been trying to get a friend of mine out on my boat for a while. We got our schedules to work out for the most part although we had a strict 3 hr of fishing time on the water. Good thing the fish cooperated also! Started fishing right at 7:30 and had 3 coho in the boat before I got my 4th line down. This included a double/triple with 1 coho on the rigger ball, one on the free slider, and one on a 200 copper. The king bite picked up around 9 am. We ended up with 14 fish in the box and release a three small fish (14-18" kings) hoping to pick up one more big one - but the last three fish we hooked wanted nothing to do with the net. I estimate we had between 22 & 25 fish on - it's tough to keep count. We fished the 120-140 fow straight out of Port Sheldon and a made loops to the south 2.7-2.9 at the ball. Fished the same water all morning making. Never straying more than 1 mile from where we started. Most fish seemed to be down 50-100 feet. What worked: 2 coho - free slider rigger down 90 - blue icicle superslim (missed two kings on this setup) 1 coho - rigger down 90 - DW flea 4 all spoon 1 coho, 1 shaker, 1 king - free slider rigger down 75 - mini streak uv gold jager bomb 1 shaker, 1 coho, 1 king - 300 copper - mag silver streak blue dolphin (lost some king bites on this too) 1 coho - 100 copper - stinger stingray hawg wild 1 coho - 150 copper - mag silver streak mixed veggie 1 steelie, 1 shaker - 200 copper - stinger uv mixed veggie 2 kings - mag diver on 2 back 180 ft - pro king 8" paddle chrome uv blue bird with mirage fly 1 king - mag diver on 2 back 225 ft - pro king 8" paddle chrome uv charlie's special with mirage fly 1 coho - slide diver on 4 back 100 ft - stinger pickle seed
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Holland 5-13 5:30 am - 1 pm
jdh posted a topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
Holland 5-13 5:30 am - 1 pm Fished in from 60-90 fow from 5:30 until 9:30. Waste of time. Couldn't get then to go. Then ran out to 250 fow and found a few kings and coho. Ended up boxing 9 coho & 1 king. Ended up releasing an additional several fish that all decided to bite before we could pull lines. Mag wire divers & chrome pro king paddles were hot. Back 225-250 ft. Riggers down 80-150 were also firing with free sliders taking most hits. 2.7 mph at the ball. N & NE were best direction. Almost all the fish had a few to several alewives in their stomaches.- 1 reply
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Holland 5-9-17 am Launched in Holland this morning and set lines in 60 fow. Worked between 60 & 80 down to Saugatuck and then turned around and worked back north between 80 & 100 fow. I think we ended up something like 11 for 18? Put 4 kings, 1 coho & 6 lake trout in the box. Lost about 3-4 kings and 3-4 lakers while pulling them in. Awesome day on the water. Mag spoons early, normal or small spoons later - mixed veggie was hot. Flasher fly on a diver out 100 ft in 60-80 and out 140 in 80-100 was the rod for the lakers. Speed was 2.6-2.8 mph at the ball. What worked: 1-1 King - Mag diver on 1.5 back 67 ft with Pro King antifreeze & mirage fly. 1-2 King - Rigger down 33 ft with silver streak mag mixed veggie 1-2 Coho (king) - Rigger down 50 ft free slider silver streak mixed veggie 5-7 Lakers (lakers) - Mag diver on 1.5 back 100 & later 140 ft 8" spinny kevorkian & poofster fly 1-2 King (laker) - Slide Diver on 3.5 back 75 ft green/white/yellow stinger spoon with copper back 1-1 Laker - 6 Color Lead with UV orange BLL Solar Flare 0-1 (king) - 150 Copper with Stingray Mixed Veggie 0-1 (king) - 200 Copper with Stingray Mixed Veggie 1-1 King - 100 Copper with Stinger Mixed Veggie
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Fishing Port Sheldon?
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I've done it on my 17' Lowe, and I used 2 sheets of marine plywood laminated together with West Systems epoxy and sealed completely with the same epoxy. It will be a $200-300 to do it. A lot of older boats seem to have come "new" without sealed transom wood so anything you do to protect the wood from getting water in it should significantly extend its life. Also - check out the iboats Stracraft Owners forum. They'll generally help you out with any questions. http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owners-groups-by-manufacturer/s/starcraft-boats
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I was reading that you had good success on steelhead with the slide divers. What's your setup for those? I haven't been able to get steelies on any divers.
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Nickle plated is supposed to shine "black" in the water I thought. Silver & gold are supposed to be the right way to go. Mister Twister looks UV flourescent? The spoons are kind of easy to figure out because you can see the clear coat coating really shine up instead of the painted colors. I think the ladderback non-uv would show up as just the ladderback, but the UV ladderback might show up with a larger profile. I'm going to take pictures of the actual spoons that have got me lots of fish and see if there's any patterns I can follow. -JDH
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Thanks Dr Hook. I guess I didn't think about them all "reflecting" ultraviolet light. I suppose my question then come down to UV-fluorescent. I've attached 2 pictures below that show what I'm talking about - and they show three types general color patterns: 1 UV-fluorescent coating (first picture far left, second picture right & left) (2) UV-fluorescent colors (first picture dots on spoon 1 & edge of spoon 4, second picture center (3) Not UV-fluorescent (first picture spoon 2 & 3)
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Thanks for the response Kurt. I'm hoping a few more people chime in on this. Almost all spoons & flashers have a large amount of uv reflective colors such as green/yellow/orange/pink. With the blacklight these guys shine so bright! When I shine the light on the non-uv lures you can barely even see what color they are. I'll post some pictures later. I'd like to know when people would choose intentionally to run non-uv lures over the uv. -JDH