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Grand Haven 5-23 p.m.
BRIAN0214 posted a topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
Time 4:00 p.m. Started at 60' of water straight out of Grand Haven. Got first pole in water just fine, but by the time I got all 6 out I was in 100' of water. First trip out this year and poles needed some work. Marked 2 fish one on 80' and another in 100' chasing schools of bait fish. Fun to see that stuff on the graph. Hit 120' of water headed straight south all day. Weaved in out of 130' to 100' of water. Three for three day. First fish on Yellow Tail Silver Streak Spoon (still by far my most productive spoon) on torpedo diver cuda 180 feet back 7lb Lake trout. Second fish on Paddle 11 - White-Mountain Dew/Glow Crush with mountain dew fly on large green dipsie diver 180 back 3lb laker. Last fish taken on my wallye board on a Green dolphin spoon aprox 30' feet down 12" small king. Released all fish besides 7lb laker. I only marked 3 fish all day. stopped fishing at 8:30. I'm a little nervous with the number of fish taken and seen on people's graphs. Where are they? Or are they just not in the lake? -
Grand Haven 5-23 p.m.
BRIAN0214 posted a topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
Time 4:00 p.m. Started at 60' of water straight out of Grand Haven. Got first pole in water just fine, but by the time I got all 6 out I was in 100' of water. First trip out this year and poles needed some work. Marked 2 fish one on 80' and another in 100' chasing schools of bait fish. Fun to see that stuff on the graph. Hit 120' of water headed straight south all day. Weaved in out of 130' to 100' of water. Three for three day. First fish on Yellow Tail Silver Streak Spoon (still by far my most productive spoon) on torpedo diver cuda 180 feet back 7lb Lake trout. Second fish on Paddle 11 - White-Mountain Dew/Glow Crush with mountain dew fly on large green dipsie diver 180 back 3lb laker. Last fish taken on my wallye board on a Green dolphin spoon aprox 30' feet down 12" small king. Released all fish besides 7lb laker. I only marked 3 fish all day. stopped fishing at 8:30. I'm a little nervous with the number of fish taken and seen on people's graphs. Where are they? Or are they just not in the lake? -
7-17 holland
BRIAN0214 replied to Crockett's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
That happens sometimes. Its been a frustrating summer on Lake Michigan this year. -
Stick with the treble. You won't land every fish. The trick to keeping them on is never to allow any slack in the line when you have a fish on. My wife has trouble with this and loses way more fish than I do. So I told her just keep reeling the whole time you have a fish on. The drag will take care of not breaking the line. Its silly but it seems to work for her.
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I did forget one spoon you should also have. You need to have a NBK. Other wise known as a natural born killer.
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In my rookie years I made a spread sheet using Excel. I get a picture of the spoon or fly on the internet and put that picture into a spread sheet next to the name. Over the years you realize you only need a few different spoons and flies. The only spoons you need are green dolphin, blue dolphin, bloody nose, and double orange crush. Those are the spoons that day after day produce the most fish. I think most people will agree. Any brand works. I have tried all and nothing out produces the other. The flies you need are picklesunshine and any noseeam. I only run 6 rods on my boat so you can see I don't need a lot of gear this fills my rods up. If you have more than 6 rods you could try carmel dolphin, a hello darlin and a black spoon with green ribbon. Those are other spoons that also have produced for me. I just gave you what it took me 2 years to learn. I hope this helps you. I enjoy sharing.
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Anybody have any ideas who could install my fish finder? I live in Grand Haven. I hate to take it to a Marina and get charged $100 an hour. Or is that the going rate for installing one?
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I have them and love them....work great!!!!
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Lake Michigan headed towards Lake Hurons fate?
BRIAN0214 replied to BRIAN0214's topic in General Discussion
Thanks for the insight guys. I guess time will tell. -
OK, I am a little scared by the lack of fish being caught so far on the big pond. The fishing was fantastic this time last year. I have read many of the fishing reports on here so far this year and I think only one report had some chrome caught. Also not many fish being reported on peoples graphs. It was said that Lake Huron had a great year of fishing the year before its collapse. I sure hope Lake Michigan does not have the same fate. I hope its just the crazy weather we had this spring. I have to say though, I know I am not in the norm when I say this, but EVERY salmon I caught last year had a empty stomach.
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The fishing for this time is of year is not normal. The Holland Sentential had a article last week that predicted that the salmon in Lake Michigan will collapse in 2 years. Most of the fish t thaI have caught have had empty bellies and I'm not alone on this. The strange thing though is I have already caught a 20lb king in April. So they have to be eating something. Seems like everybody is catching 15+ fish every trip out. Is there enough fish out there between Holland and Muskegon for this to continue through September? I don't think so. They plan on reducing the number of Salmon plants by 50% next year. They claim that 50% of the kings in Lake Michigan are from natural reproduction. I have a hard time believing that. I am just worried next year the numbers will be down with all the fish be taken out and the reduction of stocking so enjoy the numbers now.
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I have been out three times out of Grand Haven. All I can say is the deeper you can fish the bigger the fish you will catch. The only thing I have caught is small coho and one 10lb steelhead on any thing less than 50 feet down. Start out at 140 And work west until you hit at least 220 and fish from 80-120 down and you will catch some nice kings over 15 lbs on blue and green spoons.
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This video might be helpfull on how to rig one.
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First trip out. 5 for 8. 3 small coho, 1 4 lb coho and a 15lb king. Started at 4 p.m finished at 7 p.m. Started at 125 and worked out to 225. 5 Rod Spread. Spread consisted of 8 color lead core with Hello Darlin. 5 color core with Carmel dolphin. 2.5 setting on green walker diver 160 back with green white spin DR with green fly. Chrome walker diver set on 0 220 back with green dolphin. Green walker diver 2.5 setting 180 back with Mountain dew 11" paddle with yellow fly. Caught 2 small coho's on the lead cores could not get on a hit on the flies I replaced flies with another green dolphin and the spin DR with a blue dolphin with a 00 chrome dodger in front of it. All rods took fish except for the blue dolphine with dodger in front. I just thought I would try running a spoon with a dodger. I guess thats why most people run the spoons clean. Caught the 15 lb king on the chrome walker diver with the green dolphin. First time using a chrome walker diver. Great night on the water.
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There is a free version besides the $9.99 version. I am not sure what the paid version does that makes it worth the $9.99.
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Maybe most of you know this does exist, but if you don't, this is a great app. If you own a smart phone and you don't have a fancy gps system on your boat. This app is great and its free!!!! Its called EarthNC Marine. I was stuck 5 miles out when we had that thick fog roll in last year. I could barely see the front of my boat. Without this app I would have never found my way back to my home port of Grand Haven. This does have the depth contour of Lake Michigan too. It even shows the ship wreck that is in 120' foot of water just south of Grand Haven. If you fish stay away from this area. Local divers have attached a buoy that is about 10 feet below the surface and has cause major problems for fisherman.
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I am upgrading to copper this year. I want to run two planer boards on each side of the boat. One will be the copper. The other will be lead core. How many colors of leadcore do you guys run next to the copper. I am using Churches Walleye boards as my boards. I know that the copper will run 50-60 feet deep depending on speed. Or do you guys prefer not to run 4 boards when running copper? I fish a 6 rod spread. Would you guys run down riggers or dipseys on the other 2 lines? Any help is appreciated thanks.
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My graph doesn't fill up with fish until I hit 120' out of Grand Haven. So I start there almost every trip. Unless its April or September then I start at 20'
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I would really think about running 2 boards and 2 divers and 2 riggers instead. There are many days where your boards are going out produce your divers and down riggers. Boards are $24 a piece and you can get 10 color lead core for $13 you could run 7 core on one and 3 core on the other one so you only have to by one 10 core. I prefer a 10 core and a 5 core. I set my divers at 2. I try to match my diver color to the color of my flasher. When I run spoons green seems to catch more fish.
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Muskegon 9-24
BRIAN0214 replied to Ergude's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
That spoon is also my best fish producer on dipsey diver...... -
I want to thank everybody for their input. This is a great web site. You guys are great in sharing your knowledge. There are plenty of fish out there for all of us.
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I am going to try my fishing skills in the Salmon festival fishing contest Saturday. I am thinking of upgrading my leaders to fluorocarbon. Is it worth it? How many of you guys use it?
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I caught a 8lb steelhead last weekend and while I filleting it I noticed it stomach was very large. So I cut it open and this black goo with a pair of eyes is looking back at me. I have to admit it kind of scared me. Then I noticed as I am running the fish under water as I am doing this the sink is filling up with feathers!!! It was a bird!!! With the foggy weekend a bird must of lost it bearings and landed in the water and little jaws came in and ate him. I just found this kind of strange. Whats the strangest things you guys have found in fishes stomachs.
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Techniques. What am I doing wrong?
BRIAN0214 replied to a_kraker99's topic in Salmon Pro's Connection
This is my second season fishing the big pond. I have learned a lot here. Here is what works for me. My spread consist of 2 cores and 4 divers. Put a double orange crush on the 5 core. A blue or green or caremel dolphin on the 7 core. On the high divers set on 2.5 180 to 220 back I use flasher fly combos Mtn dew flashers and no see um flies. On the low divers set at 1 150-180 out I use a black spoon with green ribbon (my most productive spoon). On the other low diver I use a NBK spoon. This spread will produce at least 10 hits in 4 hours. I troll fast any where from 3 to 3.5 mph. I like to cover more area and find the aggressive fish. Also heres a thought. How many salmon do we really need? My freezer is FULL of fish and I give lots of it away. Just have fun being out on the water.