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Holland pm 7-27
zgrinder on Fin Warrior replied to littleboat's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
Hey my friend, my congrats on your big king catch. I am very happy for you. Hope you get the board back. The 20+ king I caught last night was all over the back of the boat. Janet and I talked about it tonight over beers. I use 9' rigger rods for just that reason, to steer the fish off the dipsey and downrigger lines. And I had to use all of that rod to boat the King last night. -
Nice catch. Agree, there are lots of big kings to be had if you can keep them hooked up. I was fishing close to the same area and was going to give you a shout out but between the fish hitting and the three line tangle we had with a double including our big king, it was just too busy on the back of the boat. We pulled lines early after that but would have liked to stayed out a bit longer. Iced the fish for a 9:00am cutting. Hats off to you for taking care of that when you got in.
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Headed out with the O'Neals about 5:30pm straight out of Holland, setting down in 115FOW and pointed the bow south. Ran 4 riggers with 2 deep spoons and 2 higher SD/flies, 2 mono dipseys with spoons a bit higher and one long line down the chute starting with a blue & silver J. About 40 minutes into the troll (after repairs required to a broken rigger clip right out of the gate), a SH hit SWR, the deepest line. After a respectable run, Mr. SH came flying out of the water and the hook set - gone. A blue powder fly on a blue SD came through about 20 min later in slightly shallower water producing a 6lb Coho(N). Shortly thereafter, SWR got bit again. A big run ensued and then the mighty fight began. But half way into the battle, the King gained the upper hand and let go of the hook. Tom was now 0 for 2 and dreading jumping on another rod.. 10 min later we got bit again on the powder blue fly producing a small king that we released to grow big for another day. After another short break, we got a big hit on the crystal fly that took a lot of line. Tom fought this one hard and with Janet's expert netting, we boated a 16.5lb King(N) . . . and there was much rejoicing as Tom now landed a nice size King to erase the previous misses. We had another drive by soon thereafter but then it got quite as we were well south of Saugatuck harbor. We turned around to a north troll to attempt to repeat some of the magic we found going south. Almost an hour went by without a bump. Prior to dusk we dropped a night program of Moonshine Blue and Green Jeans glow spoons on the deep riggers. An Alarm Clock rig and white SD/fly on the high riggers, Bloody Nose and Kevorkian spoons on the dipseys and pulled the long line. The Alarm Clock rig took the first pre-dusk bite with a pounding run. This time, I could move the fish a bit without neutral drops and with patience, boated my first 20+lb fish for the season (came in at 21lbs). Late in that battle, SWR got hit and the adjacent DR tipped up. Not sure who got into who but we had to cut through the mono DR line with the SD/fly to release the three lines that came together and decided not to put any of them back down. Just as we were getting that cleared, the port side dipsey got bit, like we needed that too on the same side of the boat but the fish came off fairly quickly. We pulled lines progressively to call it a night without any other bites. Not a lot of chatter on the radio other than the capsized boat I believe was near Grand Haven sending 2 people in the water that were recovered. Bite seamed to pick up for the fleet near dusk. Our long line was silent. Planned on running meat on one deep line but the action was steady that I never got around to making that switch. I would have liked to give a shout out to Parker but it got too busy on the back of Fin Warrior at dusk and we decided not to stay out long as the O'Neals had trave plans for the weekend. I have some video I may post tomorrow. # Time Fish Weight FOW Latitude Troll Wind Dir. Speed @ Ball Rod Bait Depth Bait Temp Bait 1 6:38pm Steelhead Miss 120 S N 2.3 SWR 70'@ball Mag Blue Silver foil spoon 2 7:00pm Coho 8 111 S N 2.4 DR 20# 66'@ball 45 Blue SD / Blue fly 3 7:10pm King Miss 112 S N 2.5 Dipsey - Mono 54' 45 Mag Blue Dolphin foil spoon 4 7:19pm King 5 108 S N 2.5 DR 20# 66'@ball 43 Blue SD / Blue fly 5 7:35pm King 16.5 108 S N 2.2 DR 20# 66'@ball Blue & Green & Silver SD / Crystal fly 6 7:55pm King 8 111 S N 2.2 SWR 70'@ball Mag Blue Silver foil spoon 7 9:05pm King 21 116 N N 2.2 DR 20# 65'@ball 44 Alarm Clock SD/Fly Glow Rig 8 9:20pm King 6 118 N N 2.2 DR 20# 66'@ball Mag Glow Blue Jeans spoon 9 9:25pm Miss 119 N N 2.3 Dipsey - Mono 52' Mag Bloody Nose spoon
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Saugatuck 7/25 PM
zgrinder on Fin Warrior replied to 2MD's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
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Set out on a short evening float with Janet, pushing off after 6:00pm. Ran almost straight out and set down in 110FOW pointing south to south west. Four rigger two dipsey program for the night. After replacing two Off Shore clips on the downrigger balls Janet was setting down, finally got the dipsey down on my side of the boat. Before I could get the first of two riggers down, the SB dipsey went off. Did not zero in speed or depth at that point but what the heck. Boated a nice 12# king - good start. Then after getting all the gear finally down, we were in 140 FOW which I had not intended to get out that far but there we were. About an hour passed before we got back into shallower water and crossed a massive ball of bait stretching from 30' down to almost the sea bead. After passing through, the the port rigger with a white paddle and fly popped and we boated an 8# coho per Janet's call on the ID. Got that back down after two attempts as the paddle was getting into the SWR. Shortly thereafter, SWR with a charged glow mag Blue Jeans went into full song. Based on the score lines on the spool, I estimate about 400' of line that got ripped off. Then the battle was on. The white SD/fly on the adjacent rigger got severed in the run so we tucked that rod away. The Squall II drag was cranked almost to the no limit zone and I could not gain on the fish without neutral drops. We did that for 15-20 min then the King decided to let go of the hook and it was all over. The spoon was tipped with what I call a stout big king VMC hook which did not bend but upon inspection, it looked like only one hook was deep set based on the material left behind. My day to land a 20#+ king this year will have to wait for another day. After getting SWR back down, we got bit again. Downrigger down 60' tipped with a blue SD and fly took a small king that was hooked lightly allowing us to release it. Before pulling lines, the mono dipsey with the mag Blue Dolphin got bit again but the fish came off in the fight. We pulled lines just after sunset. Overall, we had action between 120-114FOW but not any deeper. We never did get to under 100FOW as I had planned. Nice action for a very limited float tonight. # Time Fish Weight FOW Latitude Troll Wind Dir. Speed @ Ball Rod Bait Depth Bait Temp Bait 1 6:55pm King 12 120 SW SW 2 Dipsey - Mono 63' 44 Mag Blue Dolphin foil 2 7:58pm Coho 8 125 S SW 2.2 DR 20# 66'@ball White SD / White fly 3 8:20pm King 118 N SW 2.5 SWR 70'@ball Glow Blue Jeans 4 8:50pm King 5 117 NE SW 2.4 DR 20# 60'@ball Blue SD / Blue fly 5 9:05pm King 114 NE SW 2.4 Dipsey - Mono 45' 48 Mag Blue Dolphin foil
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Holland 7-22 PM
zgrinder on Fin Warrior replied to ceboet's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
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SoHa 7/21 am
zgrinder on Fin Warrior replied to CJB235's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
A big congrats on landing a brown trout. They are very hard to come by in SW MI. -
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zgrinder on Fin Warrior replied to Carpfisher's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
I don't know that the fishing out of Holland or PS is any better than Grand Haven. There is no structure to hold fish in this area and fish stocking in Lake Macatawa has been infrequent. Suggest finding a tackle or bait shop in your area and talk to them. They usually have a handle on where the fish are and what they are biting over the last few days. Second, I would put some powder blue flies and blue spoons down even if you are only fishing down 50-60'. Kings and SH like blue offerings. Third, consider adding a high line to the mix - like 35-40' down targeting SH. 10-color lead will get you there if you have it. If not, a dipsey with a ring will do (100' of line out on a 1.5 side set if trolling under 2.5mph, add another 20' if trolling faster. These are my approximations from using Smart Troll probes on my gear). Lure choices might be a reg size silver-blue spoon or something with orange in it. Coho may hit this as well. Last, the traditional approach is to set down and troll West-East until you get into some action then North-South. Many boats run NW or SW to start. This is smart. Personally, I like to start against the current with a NW or SW troll then make decisions from there. This is just my choice, everyone has their own formula that they like the best. One more thing I feel compelled to add. At the depth your putting the bait down and with a rigger/diver mix, I would set the downrigger leads at 2.5 to 3.5 passes. A pass is one level wind across the reel in one direction or 9-11' of line depending on your reel. I don't know if anyone uses that term anymore. When I bring it up on my boat with someone I have not fished with before, I have to explain it. This will keep your spread tight and draw fish in. The long line guys don't fish this way but that is a long conversation for another time. Catch'em all your next time out! -
Holland 7/12
zgrinder on Fin Warrior replied to lil' fibber's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
Hey Buddy, no need to apologize. We are all happy you posted a report. Catch them all next time out!- 1 reply
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Went out tonight with Brian and Sue from Sweet Caroline just across from our slip. We dropped lines about 6:00pm north of Saugatuck in 133 FOW and trolled south. Set up with 4 downriggers; two with SD/fly & two with mag spoons, two mono dipseys with mag spoons, 10 color LC (mag spoon then J Plug) and 300’ weighted steel with meat on Offshore mag boards. After nearly two hours of trolling, we hit a big laker in 129FOW on SWR tipped with a silver/blue holographic mag spoon down 76’@ball. It was sent back to bite hooks another day. After an hour went by, we hooked our biggest king of the night at 14 lbs. The bite came on a north troll in 135 FOW, DR down 65’@ball on a blue-clear-silver UV fly (forget the brand). After another half-hour, we hit another 10lb king in 138 FOW, north troll but on a dipsey down 50’ with a charged magnum bloody nose. The last two hits were just after sundown. 10-Color LC finally got bit with silver-blue J-Plug on the business end producing a modest SH. While fighting that fish, we got our double with a small size king hitting the same SD fly combo on the port downrigger. No other hits for the night. For the evening, marked few fish and no baitfish – where have they gone??? Had a good night with just a few biting flies. # Time Fish Weight FOW Latitude Troll Wind Dir. Speed @ Ball Rod Bait Depth Bait Temp Bait 1 7:50pm Laker 16 129 42o 40.650 NW NW 2.2 SWR 76'@ball 52 Blue/Silver Mag Spoon 2 8:50pm King 14 135 N NW 2.2 DR 20# 67'@ball Hypnotist Fly on a SD 3 9:20pm King 10 138 N NW 2.2 Dipsey - Mono 50 49 Mag Bloody Nose charged 4 9:39pm Steelhead 6 133 NE NW 2.2 Lead 10 Color 49 Silver Blue 3" J Plug 5 9:46pm King 7 132 NE NW 1.8 DR 20# 65'@ball 49 Hypnotist Fly on a SD
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7/12 am solo
zgrinder on Fin Warrior replied to SeaFoam's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
I have fished the night bite for most of my time on the water because while I was working, that was the time available to me. Having a bit of moon light is a plus. Not a big fan of pitch dark. However, baking in the sun mid day is no picnic either. My crew from Waukegan days is not here in Michigan so I don't fish the darkness as much unless it is past sunset float. Then game on. -
What a beautiful Monday night - calm seas, minimal flies and biting fish. Planed straight out to 110 FOW then set up on a NW troll. With warmer water pushed in, ran two deep riggers with a spoon and a fly and 300Cu with a meat rig down the chute. Lines were down about 10 min when the SWR with mag PK Blue Fishnet spoon got bit in 143FOW. Boated a 9lb fish. Struggled to ID it last night and this morning but will peg it as a SH. It has many of the markings of a brown trout and is slimy like a brown but the spots are not continuous. Plus it would be unusual to hook one that deep. It is a plant without the adipose fin. Switched the troll to NE to move back into 145FOW and had a stout hit on the 300Cu meat rig. Fish ran for 8-10 passes but after making a little of the ground back, it came off. To my surprise, I put the teaser set up down without a flasher. Set it back down with a flasher and it didn't get bit the rest of the night. Just got that rig back in the water and the SB downrigger down 72' with a blue SD/blue silver fly took off on the same NE troll. Great fight resulting in a 17lb king. After about 30min of no action, change the troll to SW & SE. Trolling speed bumped up from 2.2/2.4 to 2.7/2.8. I got nothing but a shaker with the faster troll going south and could not dial in a 2.2mph speed with the trolling values. Got back on a northernly troll about 8:30pm and noticed the speed was much higher so the currents must have shifted. Caught and released a small 4lb king that bit a clean blue silver meat head on a SWR down 76' in 149FOW. The blue SD/fly, down 72' in 142FOW got bit a little while later trolling NE at 2.8mph. Kept that one as it was hooked very deep. Did not get any action at dusk again but had a great night overall. # Time Fish Weight FOW Latitude Troll Wind Dir. Speed @ Ball Rod Bait Depth Bait Temp Bait 1 6:03pm Steelhead 9 143 42o 48.100 NW S 2.4 SWR 78 52 Magnum PK Blue Fishnet Foil spoon 2 6:49pm Miss 0 145 42o 49.400 NE S 2.2 Weighted Steel 300 45 Meat Rig - Blue head, blue teaser, 11" silver blue paddle 3 7:02pm King 17 143 42o 50.200 NE S 2.4 DR 20# 72 49 Chrome Blue SD/Blue silver fly 4 7:49pm King Shaker 130 SW S 2.5 DR 20# 72 49 Chrome Blue SD/Blue silver fly 5 8:40pm King 4 149 42o 49.600 NE S 2.7 SWR 76 49 Silver Blue Meat Head - no teaser/paddle 6 8:51pm King 8.5 142 NE S 2.8 DR 20# 72 49 Chrome Blue SD/Blue silver fly My project 13 2024-06-25_09-43-45.mp4 Clip of the Catch (2).mp4
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Holland 6-25-24
zgrinder on Fin Warrior replied to Jolly Time's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
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Holland 6/21 pm
zgrinder on Fin Warrior replied to jdh's topic in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout
I would be delighted with a cooler like that on a very short float. Nice work. If you have Amazon Prime, you can have our downrigger balls shipped for free - kind of crazy with that amount of weight. The price is reasonable too.