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6:15 am, we did take a 240 off the piers to 75 FOW. And worked out to 85, then North and back toward the piers. Made big circles and picked up fish in all directions.

Was 8/30 not 2/30

6 for 8 out of the Joe this morning. All fish inside of 80', cold water down 60 a perfect 45 degrees. 3 kings all mature fish, 1 coho about 9#and 2 lakers. lake trout on riggers down 58'UV echip 8" paddle with a home tied blue bubble fly., Kings on wire Deeper diver 125, out 150 with modified Blue Dolphin Stingray, the others were on 5 color with Pro King Oil Slick, Marking lots of bait up high, and a lot of fish. Big spoons were the ticket, 10 color and 5 colors of leadcore. No hits on the 300 cu. Good morning for a full moon period.

It looks like the storms will be gone by 6AM, hope you can get out.

Nice job Kevin. Not sure why you are having the tangles, but well done on the Kings Saturday.

John: Welcome to the site, where are you located, and we have guys always open to riders on fishing trips. I personally run a 31' Chris Craft Commander and usually have open seats when we go out. We fish out of St. Joseph. You can contact me here if you are interested we fish most Sundays and Tuesdays, weather permitting. Again welcome aboard.

Some of the best information out there is in Dan Keating's book Keating on Kings. Highly recommend that you look into that. Also Ken Neidlinger made a couple of videos, they are really good for how to looks at fishing all of the species. Not sure if his videos are still available but they were made back in the 80's.

Pulled out of the slip @ 5:30, started setting lines @ 5:55 in 80 FOW 5 and 6 colors . 10 color lead core, 2 300 coppers, all with stinger magnum modified blue dolphin and green dolphin. First 5 color fired before I had the 2nd rod set. The rest of the set up was 4 riggers set from the bottom up 56' 2 wire deeper divers set on 1 out 100 and 120. Fish came on both the 5 and 6 colors, the port 10 color and the coppers. Port downrigger with a 1 color SWR, and stbd rigger with a 2 color SWR both took fish. No hits on the tin can dodger and spin n glo. Ended the day with 11 for 14, 1 nice steelhead lost at the net when It got into another rigger line and the captain messed up and netted the hook.(oops). Fish count was 3 kings, 2 Lakers 1 coho and 5 Kings. We did release on shaker. Not bad for the first trip since June 14. Thanks to Andy (Darkmind) His step dad and his buddy. My pal Dick Beatty and Dave. We finished @ 11:50 with a nice box of fish. The one thing I did was go to an all spoon presentation, and it worked pretty well. Temp break was from 57 to 66 down depending on the depth of water.

Water is too warm in close, Sports Widow Charters in ST JOE is doing well on Steelhead and Lakers in 120 to 150 Temp break at 55' down water temp is 46 degrees, He is catching Steelhead on spoons on 150 copper and 8 color setups lakers on the bottom.

Nice job on the fish Kevin, tell your Dad I said hi, that looks a lot like about a 10# Coho not a King. ? BTW Ken Neidlinger passed away this April, just though you would like to know. I see you are using the center pin's he liked so much.

I tie my own Flies, the size of the flasher makes a big difference on the length of the leader. For a standard Spin Doctor I usually like an 18" leader, if running a fly off a trash can shorter is often better, about 2x the length of the dodger. If you are running 11" Paddles or Magnum Spin Docs longer leads work well. Most commercially packaged flies are already the correct length. put on a swivel or a snap and u are ready to fish.

Awesome trip, way to get the Kids involved in the sport. Well done Jason

31' Chris Craft Commander, twin 454's usually about 30 gallons for a full day of fishing. In St. Joe we have to run a bit farther than up the lake, usually 5 to 10 miles out of the harbor and troll for 6 to 8 hours. If u have to worry about gas costs, u can't afford it. My rig only burns 93 octane alcohol free Marine gas, 3.89 at the marina. We usually use about 120 to 150 dollars of gas. Everyone pitches in or they don't get asked back.

When the Thermocline develops, the bait hangs just above that level, the Predators will be most active early and late, and during Full moon phase during the late morning, try splitting between the colder deep water, and the warmer water right at or slightly above the Thermocline. Kings like it cold, Coho and Steelhead tolerate warmer water, and when you have the conditions we currently have surface temps below 60 degrees try the top 20 feet with spoons and body baits troll around 3.5 to 4 mph and you can really do with the Steelhead. You will hook a lot and lose at least 30%.

They need to look at what is happening at Hanford Wa. to see how dangerous that would be.

I run a 31' Chris Craft, twin 454 inboards, I run 2 48" bags when trolling on 1 motor, and can get down to .5mph. bigger bags, you can get higher rpms, and control better. If you are running an autopilot, it will make everything more stable. I use the MinnKota sock, be sure to come to a full out of gear stop when deploying, and when retrieving the sock.

I have all 3 the new one has some really good information for more advanced fishermen. Dan also points out the experience is the best teacher, learn your area, fish the active fish. Kings are active early and late in the warmer thermocline, and during other periods at temps from 42 to 48 degrees. The most intriguing information was the link he gave for lake currents.

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Martin, try the St Joe city launch, you will never have water over the docks and they have a great cleaning station. $5 parking fee, but well worth it. On a different note, my friend Doug Wiggins (Sports Widow Charters) called me @ 2 pm Thursday, he had just finished his morning trip, ended up with 27 for 30, 20 of which were coho, the balance were Lakers and Steelhead. 200 FOW on a temp break in the top 60 Feet. Blue bubble fly behind a blue and white spin doc. The rest were on small spoons. He said all of the fish were full of Alewives, and that the alewives were of all sizes from fingerlings to full size.

Sounds like a fun day. Nice job as always Frank.